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    Posted: 16 September 2021 at 11:32am
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Oh Ive no doubt that we also have high expectations, I guess I was thinking more along the lines of not knowing much about our opposition. Honestly, watching as much rugby as I do, I would say I know a large amount of the players in the P14 and Gallagher, maybe a few squad players Im not familiar with. But for them not to know much about a side with 11 internationals in it is pretty insular
I've watched the livestream back now, and can only agree! Proper fanzone 'commentary', riddled with partial views and inaccuracies on the opposition. Disapprove

Not sure what my favourite comment was - Glenn Delaney now being DoR or mid-2nd half line "some of the Scarlets replacements don't have numbered shirts, but we'll know when Samson Lee is on the pitch" when he'd been on since the 41st minute. LOL

It was clearly only meant for Tigers fans, but it shows the lack of knowledge outside their own country, or even postcode. I look forward to him joining the Premier Sports commentator line-up. Wink
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Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Agree, There is a kind of arrogance in expectation. Must have been amazing to see the win in person, its been a long time.
It has! And it was! 20 months between games (although I did sneak along to watch London Scottish v Ebbw Vale at my local club a couple of weeks ago Wink).

I know that a lot of elder Scarlets supporters can probably relate to the Tigers fans' expectations, and the one-eyed comparisons are valid in some ways, but I wouldn't be supporting Scarlets if it wasn't for the way they have historically played - the contrast in styles is what makes the game interesting!
Oh Ive no doubt that we also have high expectations, I guess I was thinking more along the lines of not knowing much about our opposition. Honestly, watching as much rugby as I do, I would say I know a large amount of the players in the P14 and Gallagher, maybe a few squad players Im not familiar with. But for them not to know much about a side with 11 internationals in it is pretty insular
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Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

I think reference to tigers fans as one eyed is a bit misconstrued. Most of the tigers fans aren’t like that at all at least the ones i know. Yes they were used to winning when they were one of the most dominant teams in the pro era and that comes with the expectation (the recent history). What supporter doesn’t will their team to win. 

Hence my point about Turks not having the monopoly on monocular vision. Wink

As an infrequent but regular visitor to Welford road over the decades, I can only comment on the supporters around me at the games I've been to, and they always seem to have an air of grim pleasure (or, as often, displeasure) about them - in my mind, it's closely connected to their style of play. Equally, I know the Tigers' supporters' group's Chief Food & Beverage Taster, and he thoroughly enjoys his rugby, as well as his solemn voluntary duties. Approve

I hope their team puts a smile on their faces this season - no tougher start than against Exeter, but maybe home advantage will help.
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I think reference to tigers fans as one eyed is a bit misconstrued. Most of the tigers fans aren’t like that at all at least the ones i know. Yes they were used to winning when they were one of the most dominant teams in the pro era and that comes with the expectation (the recent history). What supporter doesn’t will their team to win. 




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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Agree, There is a kind of arrogance in expectation. Must have been amazing to see the win in person, its been a long time.
It has! And it was! 20 months between games (although I did sneak along to watch London Scottish v Ebbw Vale at my local club a couple of weeks ago Wink).

I know that a lot of elder Scarlets supporters can probably relate to the Tigers fans' expectations, and the one-eyed comparisons are valid in some ways, but I wouldn't be supporting Scarlets if it wasn't for the way they have historically played - the contrast in styles is what makes the game interesting!
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Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

The most biased commentary in rugby history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSkE6xQ4glA
immediately before and after every scarlets try, the commentators heaped praise upon the tigers brilliant defence? bonkers bias mun
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The commentary seconds before the Steff Hughes and Ryan Conbeer tries wasn't even bias, it was just a lack of understanding of what was happening on the pitch. Genuinely bizarre stuff!
Agree. While we appreciate the effort made to show us the game, its not too much to ask for them to have a team sheet in front of them with a few crib notes. They seemed like they genuinely had no idea who any of our team were. Maybe its just me but i take an interest in more that just our team.

I was at Welford Road on Thursday evening with my 14 y/o son, surrounded by Tigers fans. I've been there numerous times before, and studied in Leicester for a few years in the '90s, so used to get along to a few games - a lad on my course actually turned out for the Tigers a few times - but I never warmed to their style of play, which is still very much in evidence.

What also hasn't changed is the nature of the Tigers supporters - if anyone accuses a Scarlets supporter of being one-eyed, take them to Welford Road! There's an expectation that they should win every game, and every ball, every contact, every decision in every game, too, and for many it seems to be cloaked in a dour misery. One chap behind us pretty quickly turned on any Leicester player who committed an error, and he didn't take too well to 'Gengey' & co being penalised by a female ref. Angry

Perhaps it's that Tigers have fallen so far from their 'rightful' place at the top of English and European rugby, especially last season. But it was great to see the turn-out of the faithful for a Thursday night pre-season friendly, and I hope that their refreshed coaching team bring a bit more success (and perhaps some flair?) to revive a fallen giant.

Well at least our resident Tiger - tigerburnie - gives a fair & reasoned summation - credit to him. 
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Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

The most biased commentary in rugby history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSkE6xQ4glA
immediately before and after every scarlets try, the commentators heaped praise upon the tigers brilliant defence? bonkers bias mun
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The commentary seconds before the Steff Hughes and Ryan Conbeer tries wasn't even bias, it was just a lack of understanding of what was happening on the pitch. Genuinely bizarre stuff!
Agree. While we appreciate the effort made to show us the game, its not too much to ask for them to have a team sheet in front of them with a few crib notes. They seemed like they genuinely had no idea who any of our team were. Maybe its just me but i take an interest in more that just our team.

I was at Welford Road on Thursday evening with my 14 y/o son, surrounded by Tigers fans. I've been there numerous times before, and studied in Leicester for a few years in the '90s, so used to get along to a few games - a lad on my course actually turned out for the Tigers a few times - but I never warmed to their style of play, which is still very much in evidence.

What also hasn't changed is the nature of the Tigers supporters - if anyone accuses a Scarlets supporter of being one-eyed, take them to Welford Road! There's an expectation that they should win every game, and every ball, every contact, every decision in every game, too, and for many it seems to be cloaked in a dour misery. One chap behind us pretty quickly turned on any Leicester player who committed an error, and he didn't take too well to 'Gengey' & co being penalised by a female ref. Angry

Perhaps it's that Tigers have fallen so far from their 'rightful' place at the top of English and European rugby, especially last season. But it was great to see the turn-out of the faithful for a Thursday night pre-season friendly, and I hope that their refreshed coaching team bring a bit more success (and perhaps some flair?) to revive a fallen giant.
Agree, There is a kind of arrogance in expectation. Must have been amazing to see the win in person, its been a long time.
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Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

The most biased commentary in rugby history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSkE6xQ4glA
immediately before and after every scarlets try, the commentators heaped praise upon the tigers brilliant defence? bonkers bias mun
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The commentary seconds before the Steff Hughes and Ryan Conbeer tries wasn't even bias, it was just a lack of understanding of what was happening on the pitch. Genuinely bizarre stuff!
Agree. While we appreciate the effort made to show us the game, its not too much to ask for them to have a team sheet in front of them with a few crib notes. They seemed like they genuinely had no idea who any of our team were. Maybe its just me but i take an interest in more that just our team.

I was at Welford Road on Thursday evening with my 14 y/o son, surrounded by Tigers fans. I've been there numerous times before, and studied in Leicester for a few years in the '90s, so used to get along to a few games - a lad on my course actually turned out for the Tigers a few times - but I never warmed to their style of play, which is still very much in evidence.

What also hasn't changed is the nature of the Tigers supporters - if anyone accuses a Scarlets supporter of being one-eyed, take them to Welford Road! There's an expectation that they should win every game, and every ball, every contact, every decision in every game, too, and for many it seems to be cloaked in a dour misery. One chap behind us pretty quickly turned on any Leicester player who committed an error, and he didn't take too well to 'Gengey' & co being penalised by a female ref. Angry

Perhaps it's that Tigers have fallen so far from their 'rightful' place at the top of English and European rugby, especially last season. But it was great to see the turn-out of the faithful for a Thursday night pre-season friendly, and I hope that their refreshed coaching team bring a bit more success (and perhaps some flair?) to revive a fallen giant.
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Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

 In fairness Steff Hughes played really well at 10 ,for the RFC.

Let’s hope he can do a better job there than Hadleigh did 
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 In fairness Steff Hughes played really well at 10 ,for the RFC.
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Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Much in the same way we have taken a look at Ioan Nicholas at 15, I would like to one day see what Steff Hughes could do at 10......as for me he isnt quite good enough at centre, given the pool we now have. Thoughts?
He played some semi-pro rugby for Llanelli at 10 a few seasons back.
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Much in the same way we have taken a look at Ioan Nicholas at 15, I would like to one day see what Steff Hughes could do at 10......as for me he isnt quite good enough at centre, given the pool we now have. Thoughts?
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Originally posted by PritchyTheScarlet PritchyTheScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by bills burr bills burr wrote:

The most biased commentary in rugby history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSkE6xQ4glA
immediately before and after every scarlets try, the commentators heaped praise upon the tigers brilliant defence? bonkers bias mun
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The commentary seconds before the Steff Hughes and Ryan Conbeer tries wasn't even bias, it was just a lack of understanding of what was happening on the pitch. Genuinely bizarre stuff!
Agree. While we appreciate the effort made to show us the game, its not too much to ask for them to have a team sheet in front of them with a few crib notes. They seemed like they genuinely had no idea who any of our team were. Maybe its just me but i take an interest in more that just our team.
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Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

   I do not think we were under pressure, there was parity I felt .

   Cole was his illegal scrummaging best, boring in on the angle .
I know you probably didn’t mean it like that but ‘the opposition were scrumming illegally, so we weren’t losing out in the scrums’ isn’t the best argument to use. All season teams will try illegality against us and if the refs don’t penalise it we’ve got to have the cleverness just to do the same thing against the opposition. If we don’t we might be a clean team but we’ll also become a losing team. Just as context I couldn’t catch the game last night and so this comment comes entirely from my reaction to what’s been written on this forum.
Mark was just making an observation which is correct and always has been - Cole scrummages illegally. He has done it for years and I can only assume he has some kind of hold over refs and the media that its not pointed out every single scrum.
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Dan is an invaluable member of our squad, however, we’ve all seen what his strengths and weaknesses are. If we are to play a more expensive game, then Sam is our man. Dan has had several seasons to stake a claim for the #10 shirt, especially with Patch’s absence. It’s Sam’s turn now. 
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I don't think Dinky can play at the pace and elusiveness that Peel requires on hard pitches. Maybe as the winter wears on and games become less expansive. but at the moment I'd even have O'Brien on the bench when Patchell is unavailable.
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