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    Posted: 28 April 2021 at 4:25pm
Just been doing a bit more reading about the European Super League debacle last week. 

The Real Madrid CEO seems to think that because kids play Fortnite and Minecraft they’re not interested in football and so something has to be done to appeal to that “new demographic” (my summary but his point is pretty delusional).

Their idea, however, is that, with the right tweaks they can make soccer more palatable to young people whose brains have been shaped by TikTok. But if Perez and Agnelli, two singularly myopic figures in an astonishingly myopic class, were capable of looking outside their gilded prison, they would realize that soccer is hardly unique in facing these problems. 

Every major American sport is dealing with a similar “crisis.” On Friday, for instance, the NBA announced that it would broadcast one Marvel-themed game that would “integrate elements from an original Marvel story and iconic characters,” whatever that means. The NFL has started broadcasting games on Nickelodeon. Both leagues are reckoning with the realization that the meteoric, global growth they have experienced is grinding to a halt—there are no worlds left to conquer.” link 

One aspect that hasn’t really been mentioned is that back when the UEFA champions league was broadcast by ITV the viewing figures were double, sometimes, triple what they are now on BT.

A few years ago they said UCL viewing figures had dropped 35% since going to BT Sport, which led to the talks that led to the ESL https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10551237/champions-league-tv-viewership-european/

It just makes me laugh that these administrators who think taking the cash and putting it behind a paywall will solve their problems.

As I said in above posts, the ECB decided to go behind a paywall and 10 years later have to create a new format to get eyes on telly and bums on seats again.

Same with UEFA who thought taking the money from BT wouldn’t damage their product...
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I’m devastated. Premier sports are handed down the worse sports broadcasters I’ve ever seen. 

I’m off to phone sky to offer to chip in....
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Sky have pulled out of the race to host the Pro16. They were favourites to win the rights but it looks like it will continue to be hosted by Premier Sports, with more games being on BBC & S4C. 
Tell me you’re joking.....

Please

They’ll have bid not a lot, you’d imagine.


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Sky have pulled out of the race to host the Pro16. They were favourites to win the rights but it looks like it will continue to be hosted by Premier Sports, with more games being on BBC & S4C. 
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

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<span style="font-size: 12px;">wru boss says free to air s4c coverage of the 6 nations must continue and is non negotiable</span>
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He's going to be popular with the other nations' rugby chiefs if the sole reason a multi million pound TV deal is scuppered is because he wants the games on S4C.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/56530409

wru boss says free to air s4c coverage of the 6 nations must continue and is non negotiable

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2021 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?

My point was that if it was going behind a pay wall then Amazon is the cheapest

Fair enough.

You are confident, then, that if it were to happen, the pricing would stay the same? I wish I had inside knowledge of Jeff Bezos's mind, too... how did he get to be the world's richest man, I wonder?

You think it’s gonna double because they’re showing a few rugby games? Even if it did double it’s still a cheaper option than sky or BT.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PenScarlet44 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2021 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?
I have to pay that just to watch a few games of rugby , the BBC is awful

Your comment doesn't make sense unless you don't watch anything else.

As for Amazon - have they to date broadcast any rugby? Do we know who they'll employ as commentators? Dallaglio and his ilk, maybe? I'd pay NOT to watch that!
How doesn't it make sense , I have to pay a TV licence , even though I don't watch any BBC rubbish , apart from a few rugby games, make the BBC a subscription
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gnasher1975 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2021 at 10:50am
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?
I have to pay that just to watch a few games of rugby , the BBC is awful

Your comment doesn't make sense unless you don't watch anything else.

As for Amazon - have they to date broadcast any rugby? Do we know who they'll employ as commentators? Dallaglio and his ilk, maybe? I'd pay NOT to watch that!

They did the autumn nations cup, among others were Dylan Hartley and Sam Warburton, if was a little English-centric at times but I thought they did a great job, few weird angles on a few games but on the whole it was a good effort I thought. Warburton was a great co-commentater gave great incite into why penalties had been given, what was the thinking behind certain plays/decisions etc.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:37am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?

My point was that if it was going behind a pay wall then Amazon is the cheapest

Fair enough.

You are confident, then, that if it were to happen, the pricing would stay the same? I wish I had inside knowledge of Jeff Bezos's mind, too... how did he get to be the world's richest man, I wonder?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:35am
Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?
I have to pay that just to watch a few games of rugby , the BBC is awful

Your comment doesn't make sense unless you don't watch anything else.

As for Amazon - have they to date broadcast any rugby? Do we know who they'll employ as commentators? Dallaglio and his ilk, maybe? I'd pay NOT to watch that!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PenScarlet44 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2021 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?
I have to pay that just to watch a few games of rugby , the BBC is awful
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2021 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?

My point was that if it was going behind a pay wall then Amazon is the cheapest. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 March 2021 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by PenScarlet44 PenScarlet44 wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

What’s he gonna do, pull Wales out of the six nations if it isn’t on S4C? He can fight for it but there’s not much else he can do. Early signs are that it’s going to Amazon. £11.98 to watch the six nations? Bargain. 

Not compared to £0.00 though - maybe have a word with your accountant!
Don't you pay your TV licence?

Yes - for which I get rather a lot more than just a few games of rugby. Perhaps you didn't spot that?
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

If thats true can't see CVC being very happy unless of course terrestial TV have paid top dollar which will be criticised in other quarters. 
I read something a few days ago that the Director General of the BBC had authorised a higher bid for the Six Nations rights. If it’s even close to the pay tv bids then it’s a no brainer to select that bid because of the increasing publicity and sponsorship that a FTA tournament would bring.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

If thats true can't see CVC being very happy unless of course terrestial TV have paid top dollar which will be criticised in other quarters. 

I guess that's the power of 2 bidders joining up, they might not have enough to outbid the bigger players but if they pool their resources then who knows.
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