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haydn_davies ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 April 2009 Location: Llanelli Status: Offline Points: 17955 |
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To add to what Matty has said, a lot of our squad members are from North Wales - George North, Rob McCusker, Andy Fenby, Rhodri Jones to name but a few. There really is a lot of rugby followers in North Wales and being born in North Wales and now living down in Llanelli for the past 10 years I believe that I have seen rugby in North Wales from two different perspectives. Firstly there are a lot of untapped quality rugby players in North Wales but I believe that the whole rugby system fails to deliver in nurturing young players from school age right up to senior rugby. Secondly I think that due to the way transport links are in our country, North Wales will never really be considered as a part of Wales to truly compete with South Wales. Down here we are only a short distance away from truly world-class facilities and infrastructure. If someone from North Wales wanted to use an indoor training facility such as the barn that we have here at Parc y Scarlets I wouldn't have a clue where they could go to use such a facility. North Wales poeple seem to feel that they are second-class citizens in this country due to the fact that everything is geared towards the large conurbations of South Wales - and in short they are right.
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Matty ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 923 |
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Have to disagree there. There is a lot of support for rugby in North Wales it's just that the chances to watch it are limited. When the Scarlets played in North Wales crowds were on par with those at Stradey at the time. You would get over 10,000 going to watch Wales A play when they played there and the 1999 World Cup game between Japan and Samoa sold out as well. The WRU have constantly seen North Wales as a nothing area in terms of rugby. A few seasons ago Llangefni finished second in Division 3 West and should have been promoted to division 2 West, but the WRU deemed that North Wales based teams should not be allowed to play teams from the south, actually relegated Llangefni down to Division 4 North. How is rugby meant to thrive in an area where the WRU blatently limit how far a club can develop? As for the crusaders, crowds were better at Wrexham than they were at Bridgend, so in a way the Crusaders were doomed to failure right from the beginning. They expanded too quickly to get into the Super League and are no paying the price. They never captured the imagination of the public in the way they hoped. What's baffling about the whole episode is that Wakefield are now allowed to stay in the Super League despite not meeting the criteria to gain a licence. Don't agree with the licence system at all, too many flaws and it only works in the best interests of a few. Feel really sorry for Halifax who by rights should now be a Super League side. Rant over. |
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I've never seen them live, although I did see Michael Schenker perform Rock You Like A Hurricane live last Sunday afternoon. |
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lofty evans ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 September 2007 Location: Gorseinon Status: Offline Points: 52799 |
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To be fair there are quite a lot of Os fans in the Bridgend area,
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Bridgend County Borough Council have approved outline planning permission based on the fact that there will be three stadia (one 15,000 for the Crusaders, one 5,000 seat for Bridgend Ravens and one 2,000 seat for Bridgend Town FC) as well as a swimming pool and tennis centre. Problem is that in order for this to fall within the local planning development plan, there has to be an over-riding need. They've always insisted that the Crusaders would return to play in Bridgend, despite having a 25-year agreement to play in Wrexham. The over-riding need disappears without the 15,000 seat stadium. The planning application now passes to the Welsh Government as there is self interest in Bridgend as some land is council owned which will be sold to the developers. Who knows what the Welsh Government will do but the developers say that they don't need a "resident" team as people like the Welsh FA and WRU have shown an interest in the stadium. Really? So they build a £25M stadium so that Wales can play Luxembourg once in every few years there? Is that cost effective? Anyway, the upshot is that planning will be given but the stadium will probably not get built.................unless the Ospreys play there!!! |
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Do you think that Senior could bring Gareth Thomas with him to the Scarlets for a 3-month period during the WC??
Thomas to play as a winger and Senior as a centre?? Thoughts?? |
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scarletman ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Married with Kids - Close to Bankruptcy Joined: 18 August 2004 Location: Heol-y-Cyw Status: Offline Points: 12299 |
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For his age ... he can shift too ! |
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was wondering earlier what would hppen to senior. he was a quality signing for them. huge shame this. wonder if he fancies a centre cover uring the world cup at the scarlets!? Keith Senior very rarely misses a tackle, always gains yards and can score fair few tries.
anyways, not a happy bunny by the look of his twitter!
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dont think its been approved yet (i'm sure abbey can give us more details). i'll be shocked if it ever gets built. to build the whole complex must be about £100 Million !!. where's the money going to come from. i'm sure it'll all go tits-up and they'll build houses instead (which is why, i think, the crusaders failed, the people in charge arent really interested in the rugby, they're more interested in the land/complex and building on it). Keith Senior not a happy - KeithSenior4 Crusaders have f****d me over, what a b*****d joke, excuse my language I'm absolutely furious KeithSenior4 Looks like I need to look for a job http://twitter.com/#!/KeithSenior4 i dont know how the crusaders withdrawing their application will affect wrexham fc (maybe administration ?). |
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lofty evans ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 September 2007 Location: Gorseinon Status: Offline Points: 52799 |
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Stop start is not a bad thing, when your nerves are shot like.
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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"
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SA14 ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Wwwww mince Joined: 15 August 2004 Location: Pemberton Status: Offline Points: 23428 |
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Quite enjoy rugby league. I like rugby union too but league is less stop start.
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PE SA ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 July 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12514 |
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shame. its back to championship now i think. |
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scarletman ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Married with Kids - Close to Bankruptcy Joined: 18 August 2004 Location: Heol-y-Cyw Status: Offline Points: 12299 |
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The RFL will now enter into discussions with Crusaders regarding their possible participation in the Co-operative Championship.
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