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Until Welsh rugby is run by professionals it will struggle. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Until Welsh rugby is run by professionals it will struggle. 
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:


I don't know if anyone else has seen them but the Irish schools rugby finals are always immensely well attended. I'd go so far as to say more people attend some of them than some Pro 14 matches.

Yep, certainly seems to be the trend in NZ, England and Ireland. Clubs become less important to community and schools effectively becoming pro-rugby sides from U15 upwards.

It has its pro’s and cons. A lot of players come out of it fantastic, nearly pro rugby players. But then there’s a lot of players who leave school, play a bit of rugby at uni, but then abandon the game althogether. 

Can’t help but feel it detracts from the club game. 

But maybe it’s the future and WRU should try and create a few rugby factories like Millfield 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Until Welsh rugby is run by professionals it will struggle. 

Rugby in general. Bill Beaumont the chairman of world rugby. Dear god. If ever the term dinosaur applied to a person. 
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Private equity giants CVC have further strengthened their hand in rugby union by finalising a £365m deal for a 14% share in the Six Nations. 

The deal has been two years in the making, and comes after CVC bought a stake in the Premiership and Pro14.

The money will be split on a sliding scale between the unions, with the Rugby Football Union receiving £95m.

"This is a hugely positive development," said Six Nations chief executive Ben Morel. 

"When we started this journey, our aim was to ensure we found the right strategic partner, who can add real value and is committed to a long-term relationship. 

"CVC recognises the exciting potential in the Six Nations Championships and autumn international series, and they are aligned with our vision for the future." 

The deal incorporates the Women's and Under-20s tournaments, plus the autumn international series, with the six unions recently centralising their ownership and operational activities.

The Six Nations say the objective of the partnership with CVC is to "invest to grow and develop the game", with an aim to "attract a new more diverse and global fan base".

"The CVC Fund VII investment into Six Nations Rugby will be paid to the six unions over a period of five years, reflecting the long-term nature of the partnership," said a Six Nations statement.

"This capital investment, combined with the expected growth of the tournaments, will help the unions to support the development of rugby at all levels in their respective territories over the years ahead."

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Excellent news that this probably means 6Nations on Amazon, and WRU gets £51m

Not so good news that the £51m will be spent on more hotels and breweries, and not a penny will come to the 4 professional regions.

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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Excellent news that this probably means 6Nations on Amazon, and WRU gets £51m

Not so good news that the £51m will be spent on more hotels and breweries, and not a penny will come to the 4 professional regions.

Why are England getting £44M more than Wales ??????? 

Would be nice to know how much more than us are the French getting ???
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Money is money and more of it is typically good news.

The crucial part to keep an eye on is “use this money to invest in and develop the game”.

How much of that goes into promoting the game, match day experience and reaching new audiences vs player, coach and administrator salaries we’ll see in 5 years.


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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Excellent news that this probably means 6Nations on Amazon, and WRU gets £51m

Not so good news that the £51m will be spent on more hotels and breweries, and not a penny will come to the 4 professional regions.


Why are England getting £44M more than Wales ??????? 

Would be nice to know how much more than us are the French getting ???


Because the viewership is much higher apparently.
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and viewership is higher in wales than italy and scotland
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

and viewership is higher in wales than italy and scotland
WRU is getting more than Scotland, Ireland and Italy.
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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Excellent news that this probably means 6Nations on Amazon, and WRU gets £51m

Not so good news that the £51m will be spent on more hotels and breweries, and not a penny will come to the 4 professional regions.
 
shocking but true, the wru are handicapping the regions
 
with this new investment. all of the pro 14 cvc money should be handed to the regions but it won't be
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2021 at 6:47pm
It seems that the days of us having proper steel to fight the WRU are long gone. We will never have the backing to be European Cup winning teams if this does not change.
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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

It seems that the days of us having proper steel to fight the WRU are long gone. We will never have the backing to be European Cup winning teams if this does not change.
do you not think that now might be a time to rebel?the union won't get any money without any welsh teams,even if we have to play each other and a few friendlies,i know it will hurt financially but they would have to pay for the players they use more than they do now.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2021 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

and viewership is higher in wales than italy and scotland
WRU is getting more than Scotland, Ireland and Italy.

really ? wow more than the irish? whats the breakdown per nation kidA
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

It seems that the days of us having proper steel to fight the WRU are long gone. We will never have the backing to be European Cup winning teams if this does not change.
do you not think that now might be a time to rebel?the union won't get any money without any welsh teams,even if we have to play each other and a few friendlies,i know it will hurt financially but they would have to pay for the players they use more than they do now.
I agree with the sentiment 
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