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    Posted: 12 January 2021 at 10:44pm
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/six-nations-set-go-behind-19609618
Why have they insisted that the Six Nations goes ahead at its normal time? Surely the games will be better with supporters in the stadiums (even with limited numbers), which would result in more people buying the subscription = more money for the unions and therefore CVC. Doesn’t make sense that they insist on a February tournament unless the article is incorrect? Any explanations?
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Selling out? This is money that is needed to survive!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2021 at 9:26am
And when the inevitable financial fallout from covid comes how many people will be able to afford to watch it?
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Wales will get £50m from this deal which is far more than they will get from the normal deal. 

No more than 3 of each nations matches will be solely behind the paywall & it remains to be seen if S4C will screen Wales matches.

I am actually in support of this as rugby is on it's arse financially especially with the pandemic. The only side of it I am a bit wary of is how grassroots clubs will be able to afford it as for some sides, my own included, the 6 Nations is a big income generator & I worry if they will be able to afford it.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

And when the inevitable financial fallout from covid comes how many people will be able to afford to watch it?


More people will be watching it than the alternative - which is no rugby.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2021 at 9:35am
I just don't get it. 50 million quid coming in to Welsh rugby and people are moaning that they won't get Jiffy screeching on BBC.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2021 at 9:40am
Your not really getting the point,it's about how many people can afford it,license £157-50 sky £100 + i payed £25 for a month to bt and £12-99 to premier for a month ,it all adds up.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 January 2021 at 9:43am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Your not really getting the point,it's about how many people can afford it,license £157-50 sky £100 + i payed £25 for a month to bt and £12-99 to premier for a month ,it all adds up.


But if you want things, you have to pay for them.

This is how it works. Nobody should be entitled to anything, especially professional sport.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Your not really getting the point,it's about how many people can afford it,license £157-50 sky £100 + i payed £25 for a month to bt and £12-99 to premier for a month ,it all adds up.

There are alternatives to a yearly subscription, NOW TV offers day passes for sports at less than a tenner, some matches will still be free to air. There is nothing to say that BT sport won't get the contract thought I suspect it will be either Sky Sports, given their history of working with CVC, or Amazon Prime.

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I am afraid the morality/fairness of availability of watching your team play professional rugby has gone out of the window once a deal is set up with an Investment Company like CVC. Add in the crippling effects of the pandemic to finances and it becomes inevitable. 

Once this bloody pandemic is over Nigel you and your good wife are more than welcome to come and have a sleepover in mine to watch as many games as you want. Cost for room & board - a nice little bottle of red!!!!!

P.S. per game of courseWink
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Huge boost which is well needed at this moment in time. 

Lets hope that Amazon prime get it - at 7/8 quid a month its affordable and its a pretty good product which includes the next day delivery 1000s hours of content on Prime Video and Amazon Music 

Not to mention a good chunk of UK homes probably already have it 


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Originally posted by Owen111 Owen111 wrote:

Huge boost which is well needed at this moment in time. 

Lets hope that Amazon prime get it - at 7/8 quid a month its affordable and its a pretty good product which includes the next day delivery 1000s hours of content on Prime Video and Amazon Music 

As a prime customer I can vouch for the quality of the service. If they decide to go into rugby they will get it right. The coverage of the autumn games had a few blips but the commentary teams were light years ahead of Premier which I admit doesn't take much. It is, of course, a streaming service so your wi-fi quality is important. 
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I'm really disappointed because this means I won't be able to see Six Nations games. Maybe some Wales ones on S4C.

All this stuff per month is really adding up.
Broadband: 30-50
Netflix: 7+
BBC licence fee (worth noting this isn't free either): 13
Amazon prime: 7
Premier Sports: 10
Sky Sports: 18+

There is an argument why should a professional sport be free yes, I find it hard to counter this. Ultimately they are entertaining people watching them play it so not surprising TV rules because this maximises the number of people who can watch them. So if they can charge both fans at the game and fans watching then they will. 

But what has excessive commercialisation done to soccerball? Players salaries are utterly ridiculous, players are half-grown man-children, has transfer fees over £100 million and is totally out-of-touch with its working-class fan base. I used to be a football fan but it put me off the sport so much I'd never pay to watch a game now. I would be disappointed if rugby went the same way. I don't think Premier Sports has been bad for the Scarlets and I still personally want to go to games so am not seeing this as the end but if Wales were then behind a paywall I'd see them less so undoubtedly lose my interest. But as KidA alludes to, this is not the primary goal, instead it is to make as much money as possible off people willing to pay. And if you hand it over to investment companies and Amazon Prime I wonder what the sport will end up becoming.

Long post short: "fans" are now "consumers". You may justify this from a business point of view all day long but I would rather be a fan and if sport loses that, to me it's not worth watching in any form.
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Your broadband costs are high there doc! 

See if you can roll your netflix into your Sky package as they offer a new package which includes Netflix through the Sky Box.
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