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Topic: The wine and beer thread (all drinks allowed!)
Posted By: RR1972
Subject: The wine and beer thread (all drinks allowed!)
Date Posted: 13 April 2022 at 6:23pm
Following myself and eAstern outposts discussions re wine , what does everyone drink here? Personally i’m all over french reds especially from the rhone region. Any one recommend anything?



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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 13 April 2022 at 6:56pm
So many micro breweries supplementing the bigger ones that produce decent beer make it almost impossible to try even half of those available. Our local had 4 hand pumps with three of them for guest beers on rotation from smaller brewers.

Wine wise, French mostly, some Italian and Spanish. I prefer reds although do like Austrian white, amongst others.

Trusting the advice of a good buyer of wine can be very rewarding. Some of the better wine in France is coming from vineyards that don’t want to conform to the rules of the local appellations. They feel they can make better wine following their knowledge and instincts. And it’s true.

One sommelier at a lovely restaurant says that the best vineyard in the Bergerac region does this. All their wine is sold as Vin de France, yet it knocks spots off more accredited vineyards.

Through sponsoring Hadleigh Parkes while he was with Scarlets, we got to tasting some NZ Pinot Noir, Snapper Rock. His brother is one of the main guys then.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 13 April 2022 at 7:55pm
Not had many of the “new world” wines. That koonawara and penfolds have good reviews. Are the reds fron that part of the world a bit jammy?


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 7:59am
Personally prefer reds but one of my favourite whites is Chablis. A fan of spanish Cava which is made the right way rather than pumping it full of gas. On the red front I love a Malbec & a recent find is from Australia - Nineteen Crimes. So many wines, so little time. Wacko


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 8:40am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Following myself and eAstern outposts discussions re wine , what does everyone drink here? Personally i’m all over french reds especially from the rhone region. Any one recommend anything?

As for Rhone reds you would have to go a long way to better chateau neuf du pape which is one of my favourites. I understand that there are a group of winemakers in California who use Rhone valley grape varieties to make Rhone style reds very successfully. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 9:39am
Cndp is a classic, goes well with steak and chips on a friday! Like an argie malbec to. Any one got any recomendations for a nice white to go with fish tomorrow?


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 9:52am
In terms of wine I flitter between preferring red and white, usually going on recommendations of others but generally Malbec/Chianti for red and dry for white (although I do like dessert wines) and will occasionally have rose (only Moscato).

Beer wise I don't discriminate in any way and struggle to pick a preferred type, love IPA's, ales, lager, some ciders, stouts the lot.

Some great breweries in Wales with my preferred ones at the moment being Wild Horse, Gower, Purple Moose, Foel and Evan Evans (Fire Island range), of the bigger breweries Brewdog I drink a lot of but my favourite currently is The Wild Beer Co in Bristol, great range and some outstanding beers.


Posted By: Kentexile
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 9:55am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Cndp is a classic, goes well with steak and chips on a friday! Like an argie malbec to. Any one got any recomendations for a nice white to go with fish tomorrow?

A good Muscadet?


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 9:59am
Let’s give it a go! I shall report back with a review!


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 11:31am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Let’s give it a go! I shall report back with a review!

You could also try a Chablis never lets you down.Cool


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 12:16pm
Would love to add value to this thread, but living in places such as Morocco, Egypt, Sri Lanka, Cambodia Bangladesh and East Africa I'm afraid I'm now weened on to the local Formaldehyde specials and out of date imports.

I would say the transformation in beer offerings in the UK over the last decade or more is quite alluring mind. Hope I get the chance to dive in.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Would love to add value to this thread, but living in places such as Morocco, Egypt, Sri Lanka, Cambodia Bangladesh and East Africa I'm afraid I'm now weened on to the local Formaldehyde specials and out of date imports.

I would say the transformation in beer offerings in the UK over the last decade or more is quite alluring mind. Hope I get the chance to dive in.

That reminds me of the chabookoo huts on the copperbelt in Zambia. Cleaned the pipes that did. Ouch


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 12:35pm
Originally posted by Kentexile Kentexile wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Cndp is a classic, goes well with steak and chips on a friday! Like an argie malbec to. Any one got any recomendations for a nice white to go with fish tomorrow?

A good Muscadet?
Difficult to find a poor Muscadet. Very reliable especially at the low end of the price scales. If available, try an Austrian as a back up Wink the Veltliners are most drinkable.

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Posted By: ndavies198
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 1:51pm
I really like red wine myself but outside of saying I love French and Italian I'm not really that knowledgable about the whole thing and tend to get all mine from the supermarket so hopefully this thread will help! I'll definitely be looking to get a bottle of the Snapper Rock to try. One of my favourites is the Roc De Lussac, Lussac St Emilion sold at Sainos.

For beer, I think two fo the best UK breweries at the moment are http://https://beerofsmod.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - St Mars of the Desert from Sheffield and http://https://newbarnsbrewery.com/" rel="nofollow - Newbarns from Leith. St Mars of the Desert provide some really good koelschip hopped IPAs and lagers which emphasise the fruity characteristics of the hops and less so the bitterness  - a little traditional crossed with modern crossed with experimental. They do a cracking barley wine which is a whopper for blowing your head off. Newbarns focuses more on traditional beers made really, really well - set up by a guy who used to be the Head Brewer of the Tempus Project at Beavertown before it sold off to Heineken. 

Lastly I'd say if you like wine and beer then you should give Lambics a go if you haven't before. They're a type of beer which are fermented spontaneously in open vats at night time with wild yeasts and bacteria from the air which adds funky, tart, and sour flavours to the beer and are left to age in barrels for up to three years. http://https://www.cantillon.be/?lang=fr" rel="nofollow - Cantillion  in Brussels are one of the best at these with the two main styles being a Gueze which is a one year, a two year, and a three year lambic blended together and Kriek which is a lambic combined with macerated cherries. 3 Fonteinen are another amazing Lambic brewery but more expensive than Cantillon who themselves will sell a bottle of Geuze in Brussels for about 7 euro (their brewery tour and tap room are well worth a visit) but because they have limited brewing capacity over in the UK you'll be looking at about £25 a bottle... Worth a try for a one off though and if anyone does I'd love to hear what you think!


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by ndavies198 ndavies198 wrote:

I really like red wine myself but outside of saying I love French and Italian I'm not really that knowledgable about the whole thing and tend to get all mine from the supermarket so hopefully this thread will help! I'll definitely be looking to get a bottle of the Snapper Rock to try. One of my favourites is the Roc De Lussac, Lussac St Emilion sold at Sainos.

For beer, I think two fo the best UK breweries at the moment are http://https://beerofsmod.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - St Mars of the Desert from Sheffield and http://https://newbarnsbrewery.com/" rel="nofollow - Newbarns from Leith. St Mars of the Desert provide some really good koelschip hopped IPAs and lagers which emphasise the fruity characteristics of the hops and less so the bitterness  - a little traditional crossed with modern crossed with experimental. They do a cracking barley wine which is a whopper for blowing your head off. Newbarns focuses more on traditional beers made really, really well - set up by a guy who used to be the Head Brewer of the Tempus Project at Beavertown before it sold off to Heineken. 

Lastly I'd say if you like wine and beer then you should give Lambics a go if you haven't before. They're a type of beer which are fermented spontaneously in open vats at night time with wild yeasts and bacteria from the air which adds funky, tart, and sour flavours to the beer and are left to age in barrels for up to three years. http://https://www.cantillon.be/?lang=fr" rel="nofollow - Cantillion  in Brussels are one of the best at these with the two main styles being a Gueze which is a one year, a two year, and a three year lambic blended together and Kriek which is a lambic combined with macerated cherries. 3 Fonteinen are another amazing Lambic brewery but more expensive than Cantillon who themselves will sell a bottle of Geuze in Brussels for about 7 euro (their brewery tour and tap room are well worth a visit) but because they have limited brewing capacity over in the UK you'll be looking at about £25 a bottle... Worth a try for a one off though and if anyone does I'd love to hear what you think!
The St Emilion satellite appellations are very good and offer a little more value than St Emilion itself.

Another near neighbouring appellation to look out for is Cotes de Castillon. It’s an extension of the geology of St Emilion and has great wine as well as value for money. They’ve invested a lot in improving their wine and with good results.


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Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 7:26pm
For anyone who likes their beer from craft breweries, the Perfect Draft is a great way to make your way through them.

Some of the kegs:  https://www.beerhawk.co.uk/perfect-draft-range/perfect-draft-kegs" rel="nofollow - https://www.beerhawk.co.uk/perfect-draft-range/perfect-draft-kegs


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 14 April 2022 at 7:32pm
New Zealand Marlborough whites are lovely like oyster Bay. Very tasty.
Love CNDP for reds, but not cheap. Good Louis jadot beaujolais villages is nice too


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Posted By: ndavies198
Date Posted: 15 April 2022 at 12:18am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by ndavies198 ndavies198 wrote:

I really like red wine myself but outside of saying I love French and Italian I'm not really that knowledgable about the whole thing and tend to get all mine from the supermarket so hopefully this thread will help! I'll definitely be looking to get a bottle of the Snapper Rock to try. One of my favourites is the Roc De Lussac, Lussac St Emilion sold at Sainos.

For beer, I think two fo the best UK breweries at the moment are http://https://beerofsmod.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - St Mars of the Desert from Sheffield and http://https://newbarnsbrewery.com/" rel="nofollow - Newbarns from Leith. St Mars of the Desert provide some really good koelschip hopped IPAs and lagers which emphasise the fruity characteristics of the hops and less so the bitterness  - a little traditional crossed with modern crossed with experimental. They do a cracking barley wine which is a whopper for blowing your head off. Newbarns focuses more on traditional beers made really, really well - set up by a guy who used to be the Head Brewer of the Tempus Project at Beavertown before it sold off to Heineken. 

Lastly I'd say if you like wine and beer then you should give Lambics a go if you haven't before. They're a type of beer which are fermented spontaneously in open vats at night time with wild yeasts and bacteria from the air which adds funky, tart, and sour flavours to the beer and are left to age in barrels for up to three years. http://https://www.cantillon.be/?lang=fr" rel="nofollow - Cantillion  in Brussels are one of the best at these with the two main styles being a Gueze which is a one year, a two year, and a three year lambic blended together and Kriek which is a lambic combined with macerated cherries. 3 Fonteinen are another amazing Lambic brewery but more expensive than Cantillon who themselves will sell a bottle of Geuze in Brussels for about 7 euro (their brewery tour and tap room are well worth a visit) but because they have limited brewing capacity over in the UK you'll be looking at about £25 a bottle... Worth a try for a one off though and if anyone does I'd love to hear what you think!
The St Emilion satellite appellations are very good and offer a little more value than St Emilion itself.

Another near neighbouring appellation to look out for is Cotes de Castillon. It’s an extension of the geology of St Emilion and has great wine as well as value for money. They’ve invested a lot in improving their wine and with good results.

Ah this is great advice - thanks! I’ll look out for the Cotes de Castillon.


Posted By: Turkpower
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 12:48pm
IMHO  the best beers in the world mostly come from Belgium, especially if it has Trappist written on it.

As for wines i love the "new world wines" especially a Shiraz from Australia's "Hunter Valley" and South African's Cabernet Sauvignon. Generally excellent value as well.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 2:50pm
In between the European Rugby on BT, the new Majestic ad is getting a fair bit of play. I like it and have found them to be very good to buy from, whether in shop or on line with free delivery.

I’m not an out and out Cabernet Sauvignon fan, however, one recommendation from a Majestic manager was a Chilean one from a Norwegian who emigrated there. 

It came about to fill a mixed case of 12. He extolled the virtues of Vik’s A by saying it was something he discovered at a managers tasting day. Not expecting much, he was surprised to be delighted by it, as were his colleagues. So much so it was voted best wine of the event.

I found it equally impressive.


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

In between the European Rugby on BT, the new Majestic ad is getting a fair bit of play. I like it and have found them to be very good to buy from, whether in shop or on line with free delivery.

I’m not an out and out Cabernet Sauvignon fan, however, one recommendation from a Majestic manager was a Chilean one from a Norwegian who emigrated there. 

It came about to fill a mixed case of 12. He extolled the virtues of Vik’s A by saying it was something he discovered at a managers tasting day. Not expecting much, he was surprised to be delighted by it, as were his colleagues. So much so it was voted best wine of the event.

I found it equally impressive.
 

I sense a SF Wine Appreciation Society being formed! Who would have thought there was such refinement on the forum. 🍷 😂


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

In between the European Rugby on BT, the new Majestic ad is getting a fair bit of play. I like it and have found them to be very good to buy from, whether in shop or on line with free delivery.

I’m not an out and out Cabernet Sauvignon fan, however, one recommendation from a Majestic manager was a Chilean one from a Norwegian who emigrated there. 

It came about to fill a mixed case of 12. He extolled the virtues of Vik’s A by saying it was something he discovered at a managers tasting day. Not expecting much, he was surprised to be delighted by it, as were his colleagues. So much so it was voted best wine of the event.

I found it equally impressive.
 

I sense a SF Wine Appreciation Society being formed! Who would have thought there was such refinement on the forum. 🍷 😂
We’re old enough to remember the 📺 programme “Call My Bluff” Wink

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 4:03pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

In between the European Rugby on BT, the new Majestic ad is getting a fair bit of play. I like it and have found them to be very good to buy from, whether in shop or on line with free delivery.

I’m not an out and out Cabernet Sauvignon fan, however, one recommendation from a Majestic manager was a Chilean one from a Norwegian who emigrated there. 

It came about to fill a mixed case of 12. He extolled the virtues of Vik’s A by saying it was something he discovered at a managers tasting day. Not expecting much, he was surprised to be delighted by it, as were his colleagues. So much so it was voted best wine of the event.

I found it equally impressive.
 

I sense a SF Wine Appreciation Society being formed! Who would have thought there was such refinement on the forum. 🍷 😂
We’re old enough to remember the 📺 programme “Call My Bluff” Wink
Sadly yes 😂

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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 4:30pm
You can’t knock a good Primitivio from Puglia if you like red wine 

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 5:20pm
Two bottles of white ended up with a nz sauvigon blance fish chips and a strawberry cheese cake. Today sagres lager lisboa red  steak and chips fab wknd but looking for a few jamesons and coke and the rugby now x


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

You can’t knock a good Primitivio from Puglia if you like red wine 
Very true

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

You can’t knock a good Primitivio from Puglia if you like red wine 
Very true
I have seen a few primitive pugilists from puglia mind 😂

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 16 April 2022 at 5:47pm
Lidl do a very good Sauvignon Blanc from New Zealand but it seems they have loads of it or none at all. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 1:19pm
Right mid week treat baron rothschild st emilion from majestics let’s see how this goes!


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 2:51pm
Beer Park in Dafen has a fantastic range of stuff is you like a good browse.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 5:53pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Right mid week treat baron rothschild st emilion from majestics let’s see how this goes!
Which year and any more detail re it’s name? 
Our Majestic order arrived today and it included a Sancerre red, following your recommendation. Think it might be for tomorrow or Friday evening rather than tonight.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 6:03pm
I’ll try this link now it’s the £24.99 montangne  https://www.majestic.co.uk/search?q=Sant+emilion+" rel="nofollow - https://www.majestic.co.uk/search?q=Sant+emilion+    Let me know how the sancerre is. There is a chateau de rouanne vinsorbes touch of pepper taste, i’d heartily recommend


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I’ll try this link now it’s the £24.99 montangne  https://www.majestic.co.uk/search?q=Sant+emilion+" rel="nofollow - https://www.majestic.co.uk/search?q=Sant+emilion+    Let me know how the sancerre is. There is a chateau de rouanne vinsorbes touch of pepper taste, i’d heartily recommend
 It’s Chateau de Crezancy 2020 14% strength, about £15.99, iirc. Will do once tasted.

Hopefully a mixed six order for you. £6 reduction is very good.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 6:34pm
That is a lovely one. The nicest sancerre red i have had . Any one had this japanese beer ashao? It’s supposed to be very good


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Beer Park in Dafen has a fantastic range of stuff is you like a good browse.
they got a website?


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 8:39pm
Here you go :  https://www.beerpark.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - https://www.beerpark.co.uk/

If you pop in they've got all the beers in fridges if you want to have a few whilst browsing. 


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 9:19pm
Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Here you go :  https://www.beerpark.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - https://www.beerpark.co.uk/

If you pop in they've got all the beers in fridges if you want to have a few whilst browsing. 
That’s like an Aladdin’s Cave for the beer drinker. 

And it’s in Llanelli!!!!

So many interesting drinks. Where do you start?

No doubt the staff will help.


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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Gate12 Gate12 wrote:

Here you go :  https://www.beerpark.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - https://www.beerpark.co.uk/

If you pop in they've got all the beers in fridges if you want to have a few whilst browsing. 
That’s like an Aladdin’s Cave for the beer drinker. 

And it’s in Llanelli!!!!

So many interesting drinks. Where do you start?

No doubt the staff will help.

Yesh, absholutely ! Hic !


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 20 April 2022 at 11:12pm
You can’t really go wrong with a bottle of montepulciano d’Abruzzo. I’m not a big wine drinker but I could happily drink a bottle of that.
Also, I recommend a bottle of Farnese, and Italian wine, both white and red, from Laithwaites. I used to order it by the crate - requesting a mixed crate, so that I could enjoy both.
From a malt whiskey point of view, I’d highly recommend anything fro Penderyn (Welsh and very close to the Scarlets).  I’m a member and have bought most of their whiskey’s, and find them all very nice, however, my recommendation would be the rich oak (mainstream malt whiskey and reasonably priced) or the Bryan Terfil (limited edition), which comes in a special bottle with a r3d velvet casing - although due to its extra purchase cost and increased after sale value I now begrudge opening it.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 21 April 2022 at 9:11am
Whisky wise i like bushmills/jamesons not really tried much penderyn as yet. The scottish whiskys are a bit harsh for me what would penderyn be most similar to? That red yday was ok bit dry i hAd a nicer st emilion from marks for a tenner less!


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 21 April 2022 at 9:23am
I find Penderyn less harsh than some of the Scottish single malts, but generally single malts can appear harsh, especially when compared to the blended whiskeys.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 21 April 2022 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Whisky wise i like bushmills/jamesons not really tried much penderyn as yet. The scottish whiskys are a bit harsh for me what would penderyn be most similar to? That red yday was ok bit dry i hAd a nicer st emilion from marks for a tenner less!
Rothschilds got rich somehow Wink

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 21 April 2022 at 9:01pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Whisky wise i like bushmills/jamesons not really tried much penderyn as yet. The scottish whiskys are a bit harsh for me what would penderyn be most similar to? That red yday was ok bit dry i hAd a nicer st emilion from marks for a tenner less!
Rothschilds got rich somehow Wink
there is that! I picked up a carianne today for friday , looks decent


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 22 April 2022 at 7:46am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Whisky wise i like bushmills/jamesons not really tried much penderyn as yet. The scottish whiskys are a bit harsh for me what would penderyn be most similar to? That red yday was ok bit dry i hAd a nicer st emilion from marks for a tenner less!
Rothschilds got rich somehow Wink
there is that! I picked up a carianne today for friday , looks decent

"Looks decent" is fascinating RR. I have a picture of you taking said bottle home, decanting it and  & testing the nose while you build to a frenzy for tonight's tasting. I can't wait to hear the verdict. Wink


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 April 2022 at 8:21am
Ha sadly i just open it let it breathe for an hour or so then demolish it alongsude a cheese boardSmileSmile


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 22 April 2022 at 8:36am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Ha sadly i just open it let it breathe for an hour or so then demolish it alongsude a cheese boardSmileSmile

Sounds a cracker to me. LOL


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 22 April 2022 at 9:00am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Ha sadly i just open it let it breathe for an hour or so then demolish it alongsude a cheese boardSmileSmile

Genuinely a perfect Friday night for me!! Love a cheese board.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 22 April 2022 at 5:37pm
The Chateau de Crezancy 2020 opened to accompany the Stormers v Glasgow.

Quite light for the strength and could do with some food to go with it perhaps. Slips down well.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 April 2022 at 11:25pm
Mine was really nice not too fruity with a hint of spices and tobacco. Any rioja fans here? Not had many buy may try one next week


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 23 April 2022 at 7:48am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Mine was really nice not too fruity with a hint of spices and tobacco. Any rioja fans here? Not had many buy may try one next week

I'm a big fan of Rioja or indeed Tempranillo generally.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 23 April 2022 at 9:21am
I may give it a go, i had water biscuits and wensleydale and cranberry cheese with the wine last night v tasty


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 23 April 2022 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I may give it a go, i had water biscuits and wensleydale and cranberry cheese with the wine last night v tasty

A good cheese needs a good red & vice versa. Keep an eye out for the Australian Red 19 Crimes - I was impressed. 


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 23 April 2022 at 6:35pm
Sporting Wines have done wonders for the PyS wine list and sales have been excellent.

Am enjoying a Premium Malbec from L10 - Messi’s Foundation’s vineyard. 

There’s a sale on with the three Messi wines (2 Malbec and a white) all available at a good discount. Well worth snapping up at a discount and fair enough at the normal price.

If you want to take advantage of the Sporting Wines Messi Sale, it runs out very soon. They other interesting wines. The Jacky Lorenzetti Medoc wines are very nice indeed.


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 24 April 2022 at 8:01am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Sporting Wines have done wonders for the PyS wine list and sales have been excellent.

Am enjoying a Premium Malbec from L10 - Messi’s Foundation’s vineyard. 

There’s a sale on with the three Messi wines (2 Malbec and a white) all available at a good discount. Well worth snapping up at a discount and fair enough at the normal price.

If you want to take advantage of the Sporting Wines Messi Sale, it runs out very soon. They other interesting wines. The Jacky Lorenzetti Medoc wines are very nice indeed.

Thanks for that info Steve. Premium Malbec sounds very interesting. 


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 26 April 2022 at 6:58pm
For reasons best known to themselves, Majestic have invited me to a wine tasting in their Cardiff Bay store on 17/5 between 1800 and 2000.

If you want to go, it might help to book. They can be contacted on 029 2022 8806 and/or cdb@majestic.co.uk 

Cheers 


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 April 2022 at 10:35pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Sporting Wines have done wonders for the PyS wine list and sales have been excellent.

Am enjoying a Premium Malbec from L10 - Messi’s Foundation’s vineyard. 

There’s a sale on with the three Messi wines (2 Malbec and a white) all available at a good discount. Well worth snapping up at a discount and fair enough at the normal price.

If you want to take advantage of the Sporting Wines Messi Sale, it runs out very soon. They other interesting wines. The Jacky Lorenzetti Medoc wines are very nice indeed.

Thanks for that info Steve. Premium Malbec sounds very interesting. 
indeed it does


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 13 May 2022 at 9:07pm
Back from a trip abroad and enjoying a 20 year old Listrac, a small area north of Bordeaux, iirc. Bought en vrac in a 5L, maybe 12L container and bottled ourselves. The price was about €2.50 a litre iirc.

Tastes very nice indeed and is light while flavoursome. It’s only 12% strength and I find myself wishing more red wine was at that kind of level. Everything seems to be 14%…….

A quick check to test my impression was the Majestic website. Only 5% of their reds are 12.5% or less. Just under 60% are 14%. I thought it’d be higher.

That something so cheap as the Listrac can last as long as it has and still taste good is very reassuring as I’ve more old bottles of similar age lurking in the garage.


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 May 2022 at 7:31am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Back from a trip abroad and enjoying a 20 year old Listrac, a small area north of Bordeaux, iirc. Bought en vrac in a 5L, maybe 12L container and bottled ourselves. The price was about €2.50 a litre iirc.

Tastes very nice indeed and is light while flavoursome. It’s only 12% strength and I find myself wishing more red wine was at that kind of level. Everything seems to be 14%…….

A quick check to test my impression was the Majestic website. Only 5% of their reds are 12.5% or less. Just under 60% are 14%. I thought it’d be higher.

That something so cheap as the Listrac can last as long as it has and still taste good is very reassuring as I’ve more old bottles of similar age lurking in the garage.

Oh for the days of buying wine by the 10 litre container. I remember my wife & I driving back from a farmhouse holiday in Tuscany with our Navara truck full to the brim of Tuscan red which cost us 2 Euros a litre - happy days!!!!


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 May 2022 at 8:16pm
Had a decent lisboa portugese red £9.99 in marks v good value . Not had a great deal of portugese tbh


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 11:08am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Had a decent lisboa portugese red £9.99 in marks v good value . Not had a great deal of portugese tbh
 

Thought you might be a Prosecco man myself 😉🍾  🥂  Why is that stuff so popular and so expensive I ask myself for fizzy stuff . Women certainly love it. 🤔


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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 11:20am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Had a decent lisboa portugese red £9.99 in marks v good value . Not had a great deal of portugese tbh
 

Thought you might be a Prosecco man myself 😉🍾  🥂  Why is that stuff so popular and so expensive I ask myself for fizzy stuff . Women certainly love it. 🤔

Heartburn in a glass!! 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 1:06pm
Prosecco the best marketing success for many a year. Cava, for me, is a far superior product but not marketed as well. Cava is actually made using the same method of double fermentation that real champagne uses. Most prosecco is made by pumping gas into white wine = heartburn in a glass.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 4:16pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Prosecco the best marketing success for many a year. Cava, for me, is a far superior product but not marketed as well. Cava is actually made using the same method of double fermentation that real champagne uses. Most prosecco is made by pumping gas into white wine = heartburn in a glass.
😂🍾 yes it’s overrated and overpriced! 

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Had a decent lisboa portugese red £9.99 in marks v good value . Not had a great deal of portugese tbh
 

Thought you might be a Prosecco man myself 😉🍾  🥂  Why is that stuff so popular and so expensive I ask myself for fizzy stuff . Women certainly love it. 🤔
moet or nothing for meWink. When it comes to fizz i do enjoy veuve clicquot proseco just a posh baby sham!. But i’ll be shopping for a nice red or two tonight, will put up what i buy on here!


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 7:23pm
All the crémants from France taste nicely and come in at extremely reasonable prices.

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 19 May 2022 at 7:36pm
Ok so this weeks purchases small bottle of cndp and a alain jaume vacqueryas


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 21 May 2022 at 11:14am
Alain jaime 15 per cent strong stuff v tasty to. Fuzzy head today mindWink


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 24 May 2022 at 9:10am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Following myself and eAstern outposts discussions re wine , what does everyone drink here? Personally i’m all over french reds especially from the rhone region. Any one recommend anything?

New Zealand Marlborough region whites are superb....love my wine


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 27 May 2022 at 10:21am
Right gone all out this week £49 on a pauiliac grand cru 4.5 on vivino this better be good or she will kill meWink


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 27 May 2022 at 11:13am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Right gone all out this week £49 on a pauiliac grand cru 4.5 on vivino this better be good or she will kill meWink

Steady on RR we're in nose bleed territory now. LOL


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 May 2022 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Right gone all out this week £49 on a pauiliac grand cru 4.5 on vivino this better be good or she will kill meWink

Glad to see you are still alive & posting RR - how was the pauiliac???


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 28 May 2022 at 3:33pm
Diff level , like dronking a silk scarf superb stuff


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 28 May 2022 at 10:30pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Diff level , like dronking a silk scarf superb stuff
Very rarely go wrong with a Pauillac. Such wonderful quality.


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 17 June 2022 at 9:12pm

Just back from a couple of weeks in Canada and for what it’s worth, here are a few thoughts


Syrah’s, Jasper - Oak Bay, from Okanagan Valley, BC (British Columbia). 2019 Pinot Noir 13.9% iirc. Probably my favourite of the trip. The Elk Wellington may have had something to do with it, though.


On the Rocky Mountaineer - Sumac Ridge Pinot Gris and a Cab Sav/Merlot plus Pinot Noir iirc were supplied liberally. Very drinkable


Our local tour guide helpfully informed us that in Niagara on the Lake, some of the better nearby wineries sell bottles only at their shop and nowhere else. They don’t even ship it within Canada. Whether the two we got were included in that or not, I’m uncertain. They were Wayne Gretzky 99 2020 Baco Noir 13%, Ontario, aged in whisky barrels (not come across this grape type before) and Thirty Bench Winemaker’s Blend Riesling 2019, Ontario, using oldest vines, more pleasant than many a Riesling I’ve had.


Good Natured, 2020, blend of Merlot & Petit Verdot, 13.9%, from Kelowna, which is the 2nd largest wine producing area of BC.


It tasted remarkably well after being shaken about on a 3 day train journey from Jasper to Toronto.


White Bear 2019 Sauvignon Blanc 12.5% from Okanagan Valley. Named after the 21 million acre largest rainforest in the world. It’s home to grizzly bears, coastal wolves, salmon and the rare white Kermode or “Spirit Bear” that exists only here.


Inniskillin Pinot Noir from Montague Vineyard, one of Ontario’s better known and longest established wineries, 2016 13% black cherry and strong flavoured. Most enjoyable.


St Hubertus Chasselas from South Kelowna, 2021. At 10.8%, it is easy drinking and pairs well with a fondue or raclette, or sushi etc. Surprised by this, pleasantly so.


Henry of Pelham from Ontario was a good accompaniment to the in flight catering.


Not sure what Canadian wines are easily available in the UK.



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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 12:27am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Just back from a couple of weeks in Canada and for what it’s worth, here are a few thoughts


Syrah’s, Jasper - Oak Bay, from Okanagan Valley, BC (British Columbia). 2019 Pinot Noir 13.9% iirc. Probably my favourite of the trip. The Elk Wellington may have had something to do with it, though.


On the Rocky Mountaineer - Sumac Ridge Pinot Gris and a Cab Sav/Merlot plus Pinot Noir iirc were supplied liberally. Very drinkable


Our local tour guide helpfully informed us that in Niagara on the Lake, some of the better nearby wineries sell bottles only at their shop and nowhere else. They don’t even ship it within Canada. Whether the two we got were included in that or not, I’m uncertain. They were Wayne Gretzky 99 2020 Baco Noir 13%, Ontario, aged in whisky barrels (not come across this grape type before) and Thirty Bench Winemaker’s Blend Riesling 2019, Ontario, using oldest vines, more pleasant than many a Riesling I’ve had.


Good Natured, 2020, blend of Merlot & Petit Verdot, 13.9%, from Kelowna, which is the 2nd largest wine producing area of BC.


It tasted remarkably well after being shaken about on a 3 day train journey from Jasper to Toronto.


White Bear 2019 Sauvignon Blanc 12.5% from Okanagan Valley. Named after the 21 million acre largest rainforest in the world. It’s home to grizzly bears, coastal wolves, salmon and the rare white Kermode or “Spirit Bear” that exists only here.


Inniskillin Pinot Noir from Montague Vineyard, one of Ontario’s better known and longest established wineries, 2016 13% black cherry and strong flavoured. Most enjoyable.


St Hubertus Chasselas from South Kelowna, 2021. At 10.8%, it is easy drinking and pairs well with a fondue or raclette, or sushi etc. Surprised by this, pleasantly so.


Henry of Pelham from Ontario was a good accompaniment to the in flight catering.


Not sure what Canadian wines are easily available in the UK.

Sounds fab trip Steve. Tbh I don’t think I have ever seen Canadian wine in the Uk. Perhaps not enough is produced t justify export .

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 9:07am
That sounds a greAt trip, added bonus of local wine toClap, how was canada??


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 10:29am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That sounds a greAt trip, added bonus of local wine toClap, how was canada??
It was a great time, thanks. I expected more from Vancouver, although perhaps the rainstorm coloured my judgment. Banff and Jasper plus around and between them were lovely. Surprised to see the small size population there, we learned that Banff have strict controls on numbers. A good few hurdles to clear before you’re allowed to be a permanent resident.

Going through the Rockies was an assault on the senses. Round every corner there was yet another wondrous site to take in. While it might seem silly reading it back, it is tiring trying absorb the incredible dramatic geography and geology of the land mass.

The 2,000 miles trip at about 30mph ave speed from Jasper to Toronto offered plenty of interest to view and the catering on the train was pretty decent. The pancakes and maple syrup were a personal VP fave for breakfast and so much maple syrup. The journey could be so much quicker but for freight trains taking priority, so little double track and having to reverse into some stations for long layovers to refill fuel, food and water etc. 

Canada is apparently the world leader in Nickel mining, Potash mining and Cranberry growing, possibly other things, too. We saw the first two but not the fruit.

As well as the mountains etc., there was wildlife aplenty. We saw 3 brown bears, all near parking spots and tourist rubbish bins so not so wild wildlife. The bear proof catches on bins are quite a surprise at first. Elk, a couple of different types of eagle, bison (farms) and even a sunbathing beaver. Top spot went to seeing a moose get out of a small lake and head into the forest too quick to get my camera out, sadly.

Lake Louise is lovely but scarred by an overbearing design blight, IMO, of a hotel. We met someone who stayed there later in our trip and they said it was a poor hotel.

Really glad to have done it. Would we do it again? Probably too much of an endurance test to repeat, although the idea of doing it to see a snow covered landscape does Appel.

The days on the Rocky Mountaineer were long and can be unpredictably so. Our overnight in Kamloops was troubled by train noise. We were late enough at about 2000 but heard of one recent journey when they arrived after midnight Confused All hotels in the town are by the train tracks and those freight trains rumble on through the night. Some sound insulation would be an enormous help to the hotels.

A friend said that Kamloops makes Crewe look classy. It’s also on the edge of their desert.

The Alaskan option from Rocky Mountaineer sounds easier with later starts and earlier finishes.


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 10:51am
In answer to Reesy’s point re Canadian wine, not even Majestic offer it. Amazon, on the other hand, do. However, there’s nothing below £20 and not much below £30 so it’s only for the curious with a few bob to indulge on what is a bit of a punt. There’s an ice cider in amongst them for about £15 for a 375ml, iirc. I’d heard of their ice wine but not the cider version.

It’s not a cheap place to eat or drink, in general. Plenty of bargains, by comparison, if you go to wine shops (no alcohol in supermarkets. We got a funny look when we asked where the wine aisle was), you can get decent priced wine without the seemingly larger than usual restaurant mark up.

In Ontario, you have to go to LCBO shops. Liquor Board of Control Ontario, to buy booze. It’s similar in other states, too, I imagine.

The winery shops in Niagara on the Lake and their wines not sold or shipped anywhere else is a great idea. For less than the price of a bottle of “average” wine at a restaurant, you can get two vg quality bottles.




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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 18 June 2022 at 10:53am
The rockies look amazing. It’s hard for us grAsp just how vast places like canada usa and russia are!


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 11 July 2022 at 6:31pm
Currently enjoying a 2000 St Emilion bought en vrac (in bulk 11L/24L/32L containers unless you bring your own) and bottled in about 2002/3. Paid no more than €4.50 a litre. This one had a cork that survived and didn’t taint the wine. About 12.5% strength. Very pleasant indeed.

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 11 July 2022 at 8:23pm
I liike a st emilion that ia a great price , had a nice sancerre white (roger nevues) was tasty and light.  Will defo try again. Off to
Spain in week any good rioja to try?


Posted By: Mrfwon
Date Posted: 12 July 2022 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I liike a st emilion that ia a great price , had a nice sancerre white (roger nevues) was tasty and light.  Will defo try again. Off to
Spain in week any good rioja to try?

Siglo - Rioja Crianza is absolutely fantastic if you like Rioja. It's cheap as chips out n Spain, bottles come in their own little hessian sack too.

Faustino V or I, silky smooth and again really cheap in Spain.

Thumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs Up


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 13 July 2022 at 6:08am
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I liike a st emilion that ia a great price , had a nice sancerre white (roger nevues) was tasty and light.  Will defo try again. Off to
Spain in week any good rioja to try?

Siglo - Rioja Crianza is absolutely fantastic if you like Rioja. It's cheap as chips out n Spain, bottles come in their own little hessian sack too.

Faustino V or I, silky smooth and again really cheap in Spain.

Thumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs Up

Good choices Mrfwon.Smile


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 13 July 2022 at 7:29am
Thanks for the advice ladsClap


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 13 July 2022 at 7:40am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Thanks for the advice ladsClap

Have  a great time RR. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 13 July 2022 at 7:41am
Thank you hopefully the kids and mrs will be packed at some stage todayWinkWink, flight leaves 1730 i’m currently finishing their ironing


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 14 July 2022 at 7:02am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Thank you hopefully the kids and mrs will be packed at some stage todayWinkWink, flight leaves 1730 i’m currently finishing their ironing
Hope you had a trouble-free trip and arrived without loss of luggage or children en route. Enjoy the trip and while it might take a bit of doing to be cool enough in the 40C temps anticipated over the next few days, good luck with that too.

Hydration is key amidst your due diligence on the Rioja and accompanying options.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 14 July 2022 at 4:02pm
No bother in either aiport despite the surly attitude of the cardiff arport teamWink hot out here a diet of estrella and cruz campo not helping. Kids and mrs currently fretting about finding a bar with love islamd on. The key issue of the dayWink


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 14 July 2022 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

No bother in either aiport despite the surly attitude of the cardiff arport teamWink hot out here a diet of estrella and cruz campo not helping. Kids and mrs currently fretting about finding a bar with love islamd on. The key issue of the dayWink
Have you already sourced a bar for the wall to wall rugby on Saturday?

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 14 July 2022 at 8:03pm
Hogan stand santa ponsaWink first thing  i did . I have a day pass so will be there from start of ireland gane untill end of scotland game.  The fam are on  a strict exclusion zone all dayWinkTongueWink


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 14 July 2022 at 8:07pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Hogan stand santa ponsaWink first thing  i did . I have a day pass so will be there from start of ireland gane untill end of scotland game.  The fam are on  a strict exclusion zone all dayWinkTongueWink
With deals like that, you should negotiate with the WRU for the pro game.

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 15 July 2022 at 7:34am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Hogan stand santa ponsaWink first thing  i did . I have a day pass so will be there from start of ireland gane untill end of scotland game.  The fam are on  a strict exclusion zone all dayWinkTongueWink

Remember the advice of EO - keep hydrating otherwise it could get messy.LOL


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 15 July 2022 at 10:52am
RR - Perhaps there should be a “ SF wine club on tour” thread set up now  to deal with these European wine tasting japes 😂 🍷 

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 15 July 2022 at 11:00am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

RR - Perhaps there should be a “ SF wine club on tour” thread set up now  to deal with these European wine tasting japes 😂 🍷 

I don't drink much red but I can get on board with this!!


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 15 July 2022 at 11:04am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

RR - Perhaps there should be a “ SF wine club on tour” thread set up now  to deal with these European wine tasting japes 😂 🍷 

I don't drink much red but I can get on board with this!!

Sign me up Reesy - how about we start a membership list with our first away trip to Bayonne next season. I nominate EO as chairman with RR as vice.Wink


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 15 July 2022 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

RR - Perhaps there should be a “ SF wine club on tour” thread set up now  to deal with these European wine tasting japes 😂 🍷 

I don't drink much red but I can get on board with this!!

Sign me up Reesy - how about we start a membership list with our first away trip to Bayonne next season. I nominate EO as chairman with RR as vice.Wink
As RR tends to post most on this thread, and after having started it, I think he’d be an excellent head of the club. 

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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 July 2022 at 8:15am
As the cries of the Haka fade, thoughts turn towards RR in a Spanish bar on his Mike’s Rayer for the next 15 hours, approx. 

Challenging the self-control to balance nutritional intake during this time against the temptations of early beers, it’s a tough mission.

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 July 2022 at 12:42pm
Literally sat on my own in front of tv whilst every one else watchibg a celtic football match and the open. Drinking bottles of heinken washed down with jamesons and coke in 40 degrees hear. Dear me this won’t end wellWink


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 July 2022 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Literally sat on my own in front of tv whilst every one else watchibg a celtic football match and the open. Drinking bottles of heinken washed down with jamesons and coke in 40 degrees hear. Dear me this won’t end wellWink
As long as you can watch the next match, all will be fine…….

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 July 2022 at 5:26pm
Im digging in a bit like wales. We hanging on well i feel the scotland game a bridge too far for me



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