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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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You have convinced my TBS. I still think that a collective Britain would be better only of course if it was efficiently governed along the PR route with a lot more devolution. The debacle surrounding HS2 for me is the last straw. I can only imagine what Wales could have achieved for transport infrastructure and green energy with an additional £5 billion.
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Thank you GPR. In fact, I've learned a great deal in recent years of Gwynfor Evans' ideas for Britain and why Plaid has had a long standing policy to form a different British Union. I agree that Britain's nations should act collectively. I agree that there should be a British Union. My beef is with the UK State as it stands. It's dysfunctional and delivers poor outcomes. Yes, folk could say things could be a lot worse ... heaven knows they might well get worse with these blydi Tories ... but then, they could be a lot better. My opinion is that the way forward is a British Confederation as I've said many times. I believe it's the right balance and a compromise that most can live with. Moreover, I think from a political and economic point of view it would be the most functional approach.
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One helluva article here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/31/bad-economics-bbc-tory-austerity-uk-politics
For those interested in politics and economics, it is very much worth reading.
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scarletpimp ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 November 2015 Location: llanelli Status: Offline Points: 2302 |
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Thank God for totallybiasedscarlet, and thank God for the Guardian! Problem is even though in buy it every sat(observer sun), i don't have time to read it with all the HOUSEWORK i am doing these days. How the hell does totally biased find time to read it, complete a full time teaching job, AND write a thesis on constitutional change every other day ! now I have met I understand ..hellua guy ! ![]() |
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I stood yer on tanner bank
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dr_martinov ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 August 2005 Location: Tycoch Status: Offline Points: 13259 |
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It was, yes. Basically finding inherent right-wing bias in BBC political journalism due to ignorance or deliberate simplification. If the investigation was thorough I hope it looked at the links BBC journalists have with the Conservative Party. Metaphors have enormous power and are misused by politicians (and others) attempting to convey complex things that they themselves don't understand. I witnessed this with Johnson during Covid and thought van Tam's analogies not productive, even if people seemed to like them, presumably finding it comforting thinking about a pandemic like a football match. But ultimately, economics is difficult and boring to most, so they will only read sharp, punchy stories if at all. I am in this category. Journalists are making an entertainment product, like it or not, and so naturally will gravitate to avoiding long, boring, well-thought out conversations and arguments and chase the simple and catchy. So we have endless he said she said and gossip political stories, as this article/investigation also alludes to. The same also applies to science, of which I am well-aware, and is part of why nothing serious is being done about global warming. "Don't look up" nails this completely. I would then also point out the rise of the journalist/celebrity politician as another factor. Take Gove, a former journalist. He came up with the soundbyte "had enough of experts". Why? So an ill-informed journalist then politician could wrest control the narrative from people who have literally spent their whole working lives understanding a single subject to an expert level. Or, if you like, he wanted to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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GPR - Rochester ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 December 2014 Location: Rhydcymerau Status: Offline Points: 17934 |
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Interesting article and good points raised by you Dr M. I would just like to add that I can see a real difference in what van Tam was doing as opposed to the generalisation of journalists not being informed enough on Economics. You as a scientist, like van Tam, would probably have preferred more science than football games but I would point out that in a prolonged, daily brief about a deadly enemy among us some levity actually was needed & the comparison of it only being half time etc etc clarified the scientific message for most of us. Economic ignorance is no excuse for a serious journalist wanting to comment on government fiscal policy. It is tantamount to me being asked to prepare the Welsh team for Saturday's game. If you haven't done the hard yards of study & experience how can you possibly serve your listeners. Debt is not a dirty word of course but it has a World of difference in domestic and governmental situations. It remains one of the great mysteries of my time that a government who have an ex chancellor who can "forget" to declare millions of earnings should decide the future of economic policy for the masses.
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dr_martinov ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 August 2005 Location: Tycoch Status: Offline Points: 13259 |
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Fair point, and I shouldn't have sidetracked really.
Your final paragraph I agree with much in and journalists such as Kuenssberg are more like talk show hosts and bloggers really; LK particularly is paid lots because she is on friendly terms with many politicians in the current leading party so gets lots of soft TV time with them. It's hardly political journalism as she and her like never hold them to account for anything. Reason I'm focusing on her is because she is the leading "political journalist" at the BBC at present. Marr was similar and Nick Robinson (who I actually quite liked) is actually a former Conservative Party Union President when a PPE student at Oxford! "It remains one of the great mysteries of my time that a government who have an ex chancellor who can "forget" to declare millions of earnings should decide the future of economic policy for the masses." And let's not forget Truss, who possibly will go down as the worst Prime Minister in UK history. I've always though no-one in their right mind would want to be Prime Minister. Well, she's the prime example of that. It will always be a big mystery to me why people such as her and Johnson, who are so evidently unsuited for high leadership positions based on their track records and inherent character flaws, EVER were put in leading Ministerial roles, let alone being Prime Minister. That numerous other examples appear behind them, now including Zahawi, and that they simply resign before moving on to some other plush gig with no real punishment doesn't inspire much confidence in our current setup.
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lofty evans ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 September 2007 Location: Gorseinon Status: Offline Points: 53174 |
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Some excellent posts on this thread.
Just watching PMs questions...its an absolute joke ...working people asking for a decent payrise and this lot waste 100s of billions ...makes me sick and has anyone ever worked out the cost of all these MPs and Lords and the whole stinking set up. |
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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
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lofty evans ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 September 2007 Location: Gorseinon Status: Offline Points: 53174 |
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The energy companies have trebled cost of energy and make up excuses for the deceit. Biden is already blasting EXXON of their 57 billion net profit ...its all about some bastard getting wealthier on the backs of Joe average..
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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
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scarletpimp ![]() Veteran ![]() Joined: 22 November 2015 Location: llanelli Status: Offline Points: 2302 |
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Slippery Sunak attempting to divert attention from Raab today by raising transgender issue.
This is an important and sensitive subject, not to be used as a political football. His ludicrous admonishing of those, taking industrial action today, is frightening. Teachers , nurses, fire fighterscare totally dedicated individuals, who would do nothing to hurt the welfare of students, patients and the general public. It indicates however how fed up people are, to have to resort to this. Far better for Sunak to attempt to have a constructive dialogue with those taking action,not just to end the current disputes, but to have a long term policy , for pay and conditions, absent for the lastv13 years. Finally if he is so concerned about people's welfare, what about the welfare of those bullied by Raab? 24 separate cases! Yet another allegation of misconduct, following on after after Patel ,Braverman, Johnson., Zahawi.....where does it end ? Sickening! |
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I stood yer on tanner bank
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Legendinmybathroom ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 May 2017 Location: Burry Port Status: Offline Points: 3015 |
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PMQs is almost staged. Opposition party’s have a particular number of questions to ask Slippery Sunak and they have to put their questions in, in advance, so that he has a chance to prepare and come up with his excuses. The Tory MPs then waste the rest of the allocated time by telling Sunak how wonderful he is and asking him to either visit or thank their constituencies. It’s a bit of a farce on occasions.
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lofty evans ![]() Rambler ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 September 2007 Location: Gorseinon Status: Offline Points: 53174 |
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Honestly I'd have more respect if someone just got up and said to the midget hedgefund Moderna sneak to just go away. Stuff the ban...stuff the fine at least it's honest. |
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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
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Got to laugh. Just seen the last but one Conservative leader/PM advocating Ukraine joining the EU. Other than invective, I really don't know what to say about that. Genuinely speechless
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He has no belief other than himself ....he's everything to everyone as long as it benefits himself
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Total shyster.
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Oracle ![]() Veteran ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 September 2022 Location: North pole Status: Offline Points: 3959 |
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When the nurses saved his life when he had COVID , we could have saved the world from his lies if we had turned off his life support....huge mistake by the NHS
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