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I certainly do not celebrate Liam or any other player getting injured - to me that is ludicrous. However Dai Young was asked about Liam's injury record when with the Scarlets & questioned whether he thought it a good investment employing someone who had only featured for his club 4 from 31. 

Well Liam will be lucky to play one more game for Cardiff before the end of March 2023. By that time they will have 2/3 more URC games left in the regular season. Unless they make the play offs in either competition that will be his work done. It will be very telling to compare the number of games we get from Fifita in that time. 

In terms of injury records,the same questions were not asked of the Svarlets management when contracts were given to Scott Williams,Shingler and Patchell.
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Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I certainly do not celebrate Liam or any other player getting injured - to me that is ludicrous. However Dai Young was asked about Liam's injury record when with the Scarlets & questioned whether he thought it a good investment employing someone who had only featured for his club 4 from 31. 

Well Liam will be lucky to play one more game for Cardiff before the end of March 2023. By that time they will have 2/3 more URC games left in the regular season. Unless they make the play offs in either competition that will be his work done. It will be very telling to compare the number of games we get from Fifita in that time. 

In terms of injury records,the same questions were not asked of the Svarlets management when contracts were given to Scott Williams,Shingler and Patchell.

Surely Dic management have to be led by the medics. The three you mentioned were not complicated further by being part of the chosen 38. As far as Scott is concerned he was an ever present last season in fairness. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I certainly do not celebrate Liam or any other player getting injured - to me that is ludicrous. However Dai Young was asked about Liam's injury record when with the Scarlets & questioned whether he thought it a good investment employing someone who had only featured for his club 4 from 31. 

Well Liam will be lucky to play one more game for Cardiff before the end of March 2023. By that time they will have 2/3 more URC games left in the regular season. Unless they make the play offs in either competition that will be his work done. It will be very telling to compare the number of games we get from Fifita in that time. 

In terms of injury records,the same questions were not asked of the Svarlets management when contracts were given to Scott Williams,Shingler and Patchell.

Surely Dic management have to be led by the medics. The three you mentioned were not complicated further by being part of the chosen 38. As far as Scott is concerned he was an ever present last season in fairness. 
He was unavailable for the crucial run-in( last 5 games?)
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It would be nice to get Halfpenny back to fitness and up to 100 Welsh caps or to see Tom Rogers get a few games for Wales but realistically I can see Josh Adams moving to 15 as Pivac seems to want to re position him (I’d leave him wing)

Although he’s playing In the Championship I’d say the next best option at 15 for Wales would be Jonah Holmes

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60 cap rule, rules holmes out i think
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

60 cap rule, rules holmes out i think
Does that count if no welsh region wanted him?agree about him though he always played well against us.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

60 cap rule, rules holmes out i think
Does that count if no welsh region wanted him?agree about him though he always played well against us.
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

60 cap rule, rules holmes out i think
Does that count if no welsh region wanted him?agree about him though he always played well against us.
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Firstly...I think hes okay if no region wanted him....secondly..no way am I going to agree with a dodgy rooferClap
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Firstly...I think hes okay if no region wanted him....secondly..no way am I going to agree with a dodgy rooferClap
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Holmes had offers in Wales, but his salary band was the issue. He believed he was worth more, and if any team wanted him, they’d have to pay over what they’d pay him to be in the 38.
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Originally posted by Realwest Realwest wrote:

It would be nice to get Halfpenny back to fitness and up to 100 Welsh caps or to see Tom Rogers get a few games for Wales but realistically I can see Josh Adams moving to 15 as Pivac seems to want to re position him (I’d leave him wing)

Although he’s playing In the Championship I’d say the next best option at 15 for Wales would be Jonah Holmes

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Originally posted by Tony Clifton Tony Clifton wrote:

Holmes had offers in Wales, but his salary band was the issue. He believed he was worth more, and if any team wanted him, they’d have to pay over what they’d pay him to be in the 38.

Obviously we don't know all the details,but it speaks volumes for the banding system that Holmes put himself on the open market and found an offer from Ealing to be more attractive.
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Banding system, 38 rule, 60 cap rule - all should be ripped up. Leads to inflated payments to average players, International players becoming lazy and disinterested in their clubs & the death of professional rugby in Wales.

Use the money in Welsh rugby to pay an equal annual flat rate to each region with a a top up for every player named in the International squad who thereby miss club fixtures. If you are good enough I don't care if you play for moon rovers your in. 

Leave the amount of money paid to players to the clubs who, after all, are supposed to be capable of running a business unlike the muppets at the WRU. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Banding system, 38 rule, 60 cap rule - all should be ripped up. Leads to inflated payments to average players, International players becoming lazy and disinterested in their clubs & the death of professional rugby in Wales.

Use the money in Welsh rugby to pay an equal annual flat rate to each region with a a top up for every player named in the International squad who thereby miss club fixtures. If you are good enough I don't care if you play for moon rovers your in. 

Leave the amount of money paid to players to the clubs who, after all, are supposed to be capable of running a business unlike the muppets at the WRU. 



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