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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 February 2015 at 10:41am
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There is NO crossing rule in Rugby Union !

 
 
It might help if the referees' sign for obstruction was anything other than crossed arms
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Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:


There is NO crossing rule in Rugby Union !

 
 
It might help if the referees' sign for obstruction was anything other than crossed arms

But the "OBSTRUCTION" signal was in place way before Jiffy & his "CROSSING" ... "NUMBERS" rants started hitting the screen and airwaves ....

Just out of interest just three weeks ago I stopped play, gave the signal (2 below) & some "wag" shouted there was no crossing there Ref !!!


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Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

A maul begins.......


So when does a maul end?

Take the following scenario... a lineout; the attacking side set up a maul which the defending side contest by engaging with the majority of their forwards. This " we will contest" decision by the defending side is successful and the maul doesn't move.

In response to this, the ballcarrier and the three players immediately in front of him break away and start moving forwards. They are still bound to each other but not to any defender. Has the maul finished? And in detaching, one of the players has himself become unbound at the front of this maul and is now almost dragging it forward by his hand on one of the "maulers" shoulders. A case of truck-and-trailer at the front of the maul?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 January 2016 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by John John wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

A maul begins.......


So when does a maul end?

Take the following scenario... a lineout; the attacking side set up a maul which the defending side contest by engaging with the majority of their forwards. This " we will contest" decision by the defending side is successful and the maul doesn't move.

In response to this, the ballcarrier and the three players immediately in front of him break away and start moving forwards. They are still bound to each other but not to any defender. Has the maul finished? And in detaching, one of the players has himself become unbound at the front of this maul and is now almost dragging it forward by his hand on one of the "maulers" shoulders. A case of truck-and-trailer at the front of the maul?

Good question, John! As someone who hates rolling mauls with a passion, I feel that the laws governing what is/isn't allowed are far from clear, and in any case are not reffed in the same way by different refs. I'll be interested to see the answer to this one...
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