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dr_martinov
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Posted: 16 March 2021 at 9:08am |
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Am spotting when the forwards appear. Neil Back and Sean Cronin both on 16. Course they had the advantage of playing a lot more HC games due to the success of their teams but still that's quite impressive.
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Quite a list that, chris wyatt quite high up there with 14 tries, quinnell and cawdor with 11 each and the late mathew j watkins with 11....Class players
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ap sior
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Dafydd James well up the list.
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I think you can add Ken to that theory too |
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Good points. I think I'm right in saying that at one time, Dafydd James led the overall try-scoring stats for the Heineken cup (as it was called then)?
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Good observation and I agree. The pundits tend to go for the obvious rather than the more nuanced or subtle. Ill give one example, allan bateman, he was very good at everything, but scott gibbs got the headlines for his crash bang wallop style of play on the 97 lions and in fairness did it very well. But bateman was a vastly better all round player. Dafydd james is probably in a similar boat, not quite the fastest, big but not quite the biggest, but overall one heck of a player. Edited by roy munster - 15 March 2021 at 1:23pm |
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I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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I think that’s the point I’m trying to get across. It’s really hard to tell who these players are unless you’re playing on the pitch with them. But they exist in every winning team, the guys that seem to make everyone around them 5% better.
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That is an excellent point. I'd argue Navidi is an excellent tackler and is usually towards the top of numbers game after game but this isn't as flashy as most of the other aspects you mention. All round workrate, tackling, breakdown, shows heads up skills as well. Having him on the pitch makes players around him a lot better. I remember having a discussion back in the day with Gate12 on Lydiate's role and definitely some similarities although I think Navidi is faster and far better around the ball.
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I find that fans, punters, pundits tend to have a bias towards players who are really really good at one thing.
Vunipola’s carrying. Moriarty’s physicality. Warbuton’s jackling. Lawes’ big (late) hits. Navidi I’d say goes a little bit under the radar because he’s just so good at lots of parts of the game - never goes back in a tackle, can steal a few jackle pens, offloads well, carries reliably etc. I’d say Tipuric is underrated for the same reason - is incredible at so many aspects of the game but is primarily known for his slick handling, so people think his physicality isn’t as good as others. When picking a lions team pundits tend to think “who is the best 6?” and think about the ‘stereotypical’ blindside, so basically say “who’s the strongest, most aggressive tackler and carrier?” And certainly Navidi isn’t the best tackler or carrier, but when you add up all the other bits he’s a serious serious player.
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I have had the utmost respect for Navidi since he beat the Scarlets practically single-handed 3 or 4 seasons ago - when he was just a fringe player for the Wales team (or possibly not even in the squad).
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From Le Tache... "And while it would be an absolute travesty to leave out Justin Tipuric
or Josh Navidi as flankers, I still feel Wales are slightly
underpowered, and that the team would be better balanced with a physical
specimen on the blind side, where Wales have missed Ross Moriarty. They
appear to have a line of aspiring flankers led by James Botham." ...completely barking as usual.
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What's going on?
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jeremy windell
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Spot on. The balance between the 3 is perfect. They all compliment each other so well.
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Go ahead..........Take those banana's
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Great point jezza , I was actually thinking the same thing yesterday. For some unknown reason certain players are more popular. Ive seen lawes picked in many peoples lions 15's at blindside Lawes? Ritchie? Curry? If you want to know who NOT to pick or get a lousy prediction, try big jim hamilton, clueless. He had james cooney at 9, james ryan in over AWJ and richie at 6...He also predicted wales for the wooden spoon. How is he still a pundit lol Yet Navidi never mentioned till now? The man is a machine, he is always doing the dirty work in the thick of the battle, his work rate is phenomenal in defence and attack, also got good hands. The back row balance is far better with him there, it allows the duracell bunny Tipuric to run amok and Faletau to rampage too. What a trio. Edited by roy munster - 14 March 2021 at 2:33pm |
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dr_martinov
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Been my favourite Welsh player for the last couple of years now.
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