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    Posted: 18 December 2021 at 9:24pm
Ok, I’ll bite.

Which games are these?

Who are the players?

Who are the officials?

And, I nearly forgot. Which clip got which outcome, although it might be fun to guess from the answers to those questions.

While it would be easy to play on from the Harlequins clip, I suspect it got the red because it was son easy to see.

The yellow for Ulster v Clermont, I presume. Was it Treadwell by any chance, that head butt magnate whose shoulder must be under severe danger of surgery.


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From the last 2 rounds of Europe, One of these is a yellow card. The other is play on, not even a penalty. Wonder which?



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote haydn_davies Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2021 at 2:21am
Judging by this, Arhip SHOULD be looking at a 6-week suspension.


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Immediately prior to the contact, Arhip tries to lift his forearm to lead with it.  So to me, he deliberately makes an attempt at either leading with his forearm or elbow into the tackle.  The contact was made simultaneously I believe by both Arhip's upper arm and elbow, then his elbow pushes Kalamafoni away.

The clip above is slowed right down, remember.  It would have been a split second just before contact and Kalamafoni being on the ground.  But for there is enough to suggest a deliberate attempt to lead with the forearm/elbow just prior to making contact with the head.

Straight Red.



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Definitely above the bicep so shoulder for me!
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It’s not shoulder to head it’s elbow/forearm isnt it? Or my eyes fading. Still a red though!

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I personally don't see any mitigating circumstances against a Red Card.
How i see it
Kalamafoni is in the tackle position before the blues player dipped into contact, Kalamafoni body position is constant.
Blues player aligns shoulder to Kalamafonis head hight by dipping.
Blues player moves to lead with the shoulder. 
Blues player players FIRST contact is shoulder to head.
There is nothing in law defining tackling with the wrong shoulder.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2021 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Red? Penalty? Yellow? Play on? Who knows anymore.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2021 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Red? Penalty? Yellow? Play on? Who knows anymore.


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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Red? Penalty? Yellow? Play on? Who knows anymore.

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Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Red? Penalty? Yellow? Play on? Who knows anymore.


He clearly pushes his right arm forward towards Kalamafoni before contact. Red card.
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Red? Penalty? Yellow? Play on? Who knows anymore.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2019 at 1:35pm
Yep.
Saw him grab his waist switch and talk, couldn't have been for anything else.

Shame really.

The Scarlets pass was borderline, I couldn't complain really.

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The linesman definitely called it forward, yet Murphy totally ignored him .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2019 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Edinburgh pass was flat, their receiver took the ball behind him. Ours was a yard forward.  


No way is the Edinburgh pass flat or backwards.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 October 2019 at 12:26pm
I’m with Kid A, in part.

They should’ve checked both and the AR looks like he’s got one hand on his microphone as he’s running in the Edinburgh try clip. It might be to say it’s flat, or something completely different.

Also, has “the hands went backwards” stopped being a consideration?
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