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Suarez on the other hand used the word "Negrito" ("little black man" I believe), which he states can be used in an affectionate way, which I doubt it was in the middle of a bust up with Evra. He pleaded ignorance which in this day and age doesn't wash with me, he's been in Europe long enough to know the differences.
I'd comment more on Terry if I knew what he said but the media have scrambled it, one report said he was retorting to Ferdinand saying "I didn't call you a ##### #######". In both cases I find it hard to believe there is full on racism, as surely it would have risen it's ugly head before now as they both play in multi-racial sides as well as against similar teams?
No room for it in society, let alone sport. Although it doesn't do any harm educating people as bigoted comments have been known to appear on this very forum, and if the people responsible want to moan then i'm sure the topics can be referenced.
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salmidach
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big differences here...
Ron Atkinson - Stupid black B*****d John Terry - (allegedly) Black C*** Suarez - Negrito.... now the word Neger is used throughout europe as a a Neutral term for black people... the point is where do we draw the line. the word N****r which I find highly offensive as it is a slang word. Neger is commonly used in Holland and Germany...
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'alfwits!
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SA14
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Are you saying that word or quoting it? This could lead to the return of Regan's love child and a ban for you.
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Abbey
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Funnily enough, I'm currently reading a book on the moon landings and in setting the scene for life in the 1960s, it says that at that time Americans were still using the term Negro which showed how "backward" race relations were. I thought that was a long time ago. |
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The difference I've been told between John Terry's case and Luis Suarez's incident is that no-one (i'm lead to believe) overheard what Suarez said to Evra. On the other hand people DID hear what Terry said to Ferdinand - and there is video footage of the incident to back up the charge against him.
If Suarez is guilty and banned for 8 matches on the evidence of the person accusing him, what the hell is going to happen to John Terry?? Banned for a season??
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maldwyn
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Can't make my mind up which one I dislike most the racist the footballer or the football fan.
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Up the bum no harm done.
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SMELLYMIKE
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Cmon guy ..people are suffering , the worlds ecconomy is in pieces and people are being lest homeless and we are talking about a bunch of over paid [beep]s...get a grip they are a bunch of inbred c**** who deserve f*** all
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dr_martinov
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Context is everything. "Black" is [currently] a non-racist term. "Stupid" and "Bastard" are non-racist, but offensive, terms. But calling someone a "stupid black bastard", however, is abusing someone specifically because of their race, i.e. that is racist. So if you are specifically referencing somebody's race in an offensive manner, you are liable to have that deemed as racially offensive. Therefore, what Suarez said in and arounds the word "negrito" are key to this whole debate (the "...." in your post). If he was being abusive towards Evra and included a word defining the colour of Evra's skin as part of this, that would be deemed as racial abuse, as per the above example. He has been found guilty of this and disciplined. As you say, and this should be the main point of this IMO, it is still only Evra's word against Suarez's here, which is presumably the point the Liverpool players were trying to make. |
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You guys all need to get things in perspective
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so it's ok because only one person heard it?
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