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    Posted: 05 October 2022 at 11:51am
Looking at the latest data concerning how rugby seems to be linked to brain injury,  and now the advice being given to reduce the number of matches each year,  where does the future lie. 
Will people want their kids to play the game
What is a correct Amount of games if even one game could contribute to the problem
What about other support such as football, us football, boxing and all of the martial arts
Will the game require a disclaimer saying the individual understands the risks at the time of signing the document. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greypower1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2022 at 4:22pm
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Looking at the latest data concerning how rugby seems to be linked to brain injury,  and now the advice being given to reduce the number of matches each year,  where does the future lie. 
Will people want their kids to play the game
What is a correct Amount of games if even one game could contribute to the problem
What about other support such as football, us football, boxing and all of the martial arts
Will the game require a disclaimer saying the individual understands the risks at the time of signing the document. 

Don't  believe a disclaimer has any legal standing.  The employer is ultimately  responsible for the welfare of their employees.  Not sure if a Risk Assessment is required in professional sports but if it were in Rugby then touch rugby would be the order of the day.  Rugby League is far safer as they don't  have rucks, mauls and contested scrums.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2022 at 7:12pm
Be interesting to see if Wales drop the 4th non sanctioned Autumn international in the interests of player safety
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2022 at 7:41pm
Thats interesting ladram but does it really matter....I cant remember when we ever did win the 1st International in the autumn but a lot of people who have no idea about rugby but enjoy wearing stupid bloody daffodil head wear seems to enjoy it ....
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Just watched the documentary about head injuries in rugby union with Steve Thompson.  
Very sad to see the predicament that he find s himself in.  He struggled to remember conversations he was having with the reporter, appeared to struggle to remember his own children’s names, and all this in his mid 40s.
It was very brave of him to agree to take part in the documentary and to expose himself and his symptoms, and very sad to hear that the English RFU chose to stop contacting him when he started filming the documentary.
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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Just watched the documentary about head injuries in rugby union with Steve Thompson.  
Very sad to see the predicament that he find s himself in.  He struggled to remember conversations he was having with the reporter, appeared to struggle to remember his own children’s names, and all this in his mid 40s.
It was very brave of him to agree to take part in the documentary and to expose himself and his symptoms, and very sad to hear that the English RFU chose to stop contacting him when he started filming the documentary.
Interesting and scary. Weird how he remembers some things such as huge detail on his perhaps mischievous/dodgy antics as a young man around his home yet can’t remember anything about rugby and winning the World Cup. He even had his trophies and medals put out in a garage unloved and uncared for. Depressing stuff. Lot to think about in head contact for the future and he wants a lot less full contact applied in training to mitigate against head damage 

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I've been concussed a couple of times & couldn't remember my name etc but to see Steve Thompson in such a bad way is incredibly harrowing.
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Just watched the documentary about head injuries in rugby union with Steve Thompson.  
Very sad to see the predicament that he find s himself in.  He struggled to remember conversations he was having with the reporter, appeared to struggle to remember his own children’s names, and all this in his mid 40s.
It was very brave of him to agree to take part in the documentary and to expose himself and his symptoms, and very sad to hear that the English RFU chose to stop contacting him when he started filming the documentary.
Interesting and scary. Weird how he remembers some things such as huge detail on his perhaps mischievous/dodgy antics as a young man around his home yet can’t remember anything about rugby and winning the World Cup. He even had his trophies and medals put out in a garage unloved and uncared for. Depressing stuff. Lot to think about in head contact for the future and he wants a lot less full contact applied in training to mitigate against head damage 

Yes legend/reesy - very scary stuff. The clear first lesson surely is to cut out contact during training. Secondly we must look at reducing the size of these players. The NFL seem to be a long way ahead of the World rugby authorities on this topic. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Just watched the documentary about head injuries in rugby union with Steve Thompson.  
Very sad to see the predicament that he find s himself in.  He struggled to remember conversations he was having with the reporter, appeared to struggle to remember his own children’s names, and all this in his mid 40s.
It was very brave of him to agree to take part in the documentary and to expose himself and his symptoms, and very sad to hear that the English RFU chose to stop contacting him when he started filming the documentary.
Interesting and scary. Weird how he remembers some things such as huge detail on his perhaps mischievous/dodgy antics as a young man around his home yet can’t remember anything about rugby and winning the World Cup. He even had his trophies and medals put out in a garage unloved and uncared for. Depressing stuff. Lot to think about in head contact for the future and he wants a lot less full contact applied in training to mitigate against head damage 

Yes legend/reesy - very scary stuff. The clear first lesson surely is to cut out contact during training. Secondly we must look at reducing the size of these players. The NFL seem to be a long way ahead of the World rugby authorities on this topic. 

Not so sure about that, tua from the dolphins suffered what seemed like a massive concussion the other day and was wandering around like bambi on ice. They  claimed it was a back injury and he was on the field 5 days later only to end up hospitised with another concussion.


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How are you going to limit size of a player
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Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

How are you going to limit size of a player

Well Oracle thats an interesting question. Greater thinkers on the game than I suggest that rugby should be made a more aerobic test. The way to do that is to increase the ball in play time. How about the clock only starting when the ball is in play. Re-set scrums, lineouts that take for ever with teams holding conferences etc clock off. Secondly substitutions only allowed for medical reasons. The site of 4 18 stone plus replacements coming on around 50-65 minutes could become a thing of the past. If all 15 starters need to be able play for 80 minutes then body shapes will gradually change & players will have to become better athletes. 
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