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    Posted: 08 May 2019 at 10:57am
Originally posted by Exkixu Exkixu wrote:

Originally posted by mark in sydney mark in sydney wrote:

Delaney's recruitment is interesting as he only went to Dunedin for the Highlanders job in late 2017 when Scott McLoed (the 'Landers pervious defence coach) got the All Blacks defence job … not a bad reference.
He led the Canterbury Mitre 10 side as head coach to win the comp in 2017. I assume this is where Brad met him coaching the feeder side to the Crusaders. 
As someone who has seen his sides play (not on tv),  the Highlanders pack is always one of the best in NZ and Super rugby ..an area we need more coaching expertise in … looks a great pick to me 

Great post. It is also interesting to note that the Highlanders pack rarely counts with multi capped ABs the way Crusaders' or Chiefs' usually do. Good players yes, but watching them you get the feeling that the pack is better than the parts and it works very well as a unit, and that's something we could use around here.
I would like to watch in Scarlets, Highlanders' work at breakdown. Also some back row..
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Originally posted by Tim Opolis Tim Opolis wrote:

Let's be honest here, for a region with our budget to recruit 3 coaches in one go and with such backrounds and credentials is phenominal. It wasnt so long ago that if a coach retired or left we'd appoint ex players from within, whether they were good enough or not.

The early announcement might have had an effect on this year's performance, who knows? It could have just been the lack of depth to cope with a larger than average amont of injuries and the disruption that caused to starting line ups. But the forward planning in replacing virtually the whole coaching team for next season has been second to none. Well done to all involved.Clap

Agreed 100% ClapClapClap The positive thing for me, the new coaching team will have ample time to work with the players pre-season, and at least put some sort of rubber stamp on how we're likely to play come the start of the season.
We'll be starting with a clean sheet as far as the tables are concerned, so onwards and upwards for sure. ClapClapClap
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

The ability to carry effectively between the 15 metre channels is a fundamental requirement in the modern game. Much has been made of our apparent success in 2017 & 2018 without this skill. That is incorrect - Jake, Tadgh & Aaron were very effective carriers being able to make good ground through a combination of bulk, pace & in the cases of Tadgh & Aaron exceptional footwork. 

They were supplemented by the carrying of our front row forwards with Barclay & Cubby proving excellent operators at the breakdown. Of these five mentioned back 5 forwards only three are still with us, Aaron has played no games, Cubby very few and Jake only a few more. The intended replacements for Barclay & Tadgh have been injured for most of the season. Therein lies the crux of our problems this season. 

On the face of it Louisi appears to be an upgrade on Bulbring especially in the carrying ability. It is a pity that we are seeing the new coaching group start work in a World Cup affected season. If injuries allow then a pack of Rob, Ken, Samson, Jake, Louisi, Aaron, Cubby & Blade with a bench of Wyn, Ryan, Werner, Cummins & Josh should fear nobody in the pro 14 when it comes to possession & power. 




Totally agree, the try he scored against Leinster he had 2 or 3 players hanging off him, he should have never scored that.
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The ability to carry effectively between the 15 metre channels is a fundamental requirement in the modern game. Much has been made of our apparent success in 2017 & 2018 without this skill. That is incorrect - Jake, Tadgh & Aaron were very effective carriers being able to make good ground through a combination of bulk, pace & in the cases of Tadgh & Aaron exceptional footwork. 

They were supplemented by the carrying of our front row forwards with Barclay & Cubby proving excellent operators at the breakdown. Of these five mentioned back 5 forwards only three are still with us, Aaron has played no games, Cubby very few and Jake only a few more. The intended replacements for Barclay & Tadgh have been injured for most of the season. Therein lies the crux of our problems this season. 

On the face of it Louisi appears to be an upgrade on Bulbring especially in the carrying ability. It is a pity that we are seeing the new coaching group start work in a World Cup affected season. If injuries allow then a pack of Rob, Ken, Samson, Jake, Louisi, Aaron, Cubby & Blade with a bench of Wyn, Ryan, Werner, Cummins & Josh should fear nobody in the pro 14 when it comes to possession & power. 


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Originally posted by mark in sydney mark in sydney wrote:

Delaney's recruitment is interesting as he only went to Dunedin for the Highlanders job in late 2017 when Scott McLoed (the 'Landers pervious defence coach) got the All Blacks defence job … not a bad reference.
He led the Canterbury Mitre 10 side as head coach to win the comp in 2017. I assume this is where Brad met him coaching the feeder side to the Crusaders. 
As someone who has seen his sides play (not on tv),  the Highlanders pack is always one of the best in NZ and Super rugby ..an area we need more coaching expertise in … looks a great pick to me 

Great post. It is also interesting to note that the Highlanders pack rarely counts with multi capped ABs the way Crusaders' or Chiefs' usually do. Good players yes, but watching them you get the feeling that the pack is better than the parts and it works very well as a unit, and that's something we could use around here.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.

wouldn't those wages be better used towards a number 8 ?
We’ve already got three under contract.

I assume you mean Casseim, Blade & Josh. Casseim doesn't fit the bill for me, Blade is a 6 in the Shingler mould and Josh is a natural 7 at the moment with every chance of growing into the 8 role. If I was selecting the best back row available to us at the moment it would be 6. Aaron 7 Cubby 8. Blade with Josh on the bench able to cover all 3. With that combination available most of this season we would have qualified for the play offs in my mind if only on the back of an improved lineout. 

However Blade only works as an 8 if you have plenty of carrying options ahead of him in the front 5. 
Agree completely with that point.
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.

wouldn't those wages be better used towards a number 8 ?
We’ve already got three under contract.
problem solved then lookout Europe next year,Cry
If Blade Thomson is fit it turns from a weakness into a strength. But I admit that's a big IF.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Given the news that Casseim was playing with a fairly significant injury for part of this season I am reserving judgment on him for another season & am hoping that with a good pre-season he will show what he is really capable of.

That is one way of looking at it but he has been fully fit for the past few games and I am yet to see a Springbok no 8. He is not big enough for me and lacks carrying power.
He hasn't been
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.

wouldn't those wages be better used towards a number 8 ?
We’ve already got three under contract.
problem solved then lookout Europe next year,Cry
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Given the news that Casseim was playing with a fairly significant injury for part of this season I am reserving judgment on him for another season & am hoping that with a good pre-season he will show what he is really capable of.

That is one way of looking at it but he has been fully fit for the past few games and I am yet to see a Springbok no 8. He is not big enough for me and lacks carrying power.
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Given the news that Casseim was playing with a fairly significant injury for part of this season I am reserving judgment on him for another season & am hoping that with a good pre-season he will show what he is really capable of.
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.

wouldn't those wages be better used towards a number 8 ?
We’ve already got three under contract.

I assume you mean Casseim, Blade & Josh. Casseim doesn't fit the bill for me, Blade is a 6 in the Shingler mould and Josh is a natural 7 at the moment with every chance of growing into the 8 role. If I was selecting the best back row available to us at the moment it would be 6. Aaron 7 Cubby 8. Blade with Josh on the bench able to cover all 3. With that combination available most of this season we would have qualified for the play offs in my mind if only on the back of an improved lineout. 

However Blade only works as an 8 if you have plenty of carrying options ahead of him in the front 5. 
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Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.

wouldn't those wages be better used towards a number 8 ?
We’ve already got three under contract.
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.
wouldn't those wages be better used towards a number 8 ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2019 at 6:33am
Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.
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Brad Mooar and Mark Delaney worked together in the past.
Whiffin and Delaney also worked together.

I assume delaney will be overlooking forwards in supporting cunningham.

Mooar to do the same in attack imo. Whiffin a huge influence in bringing through young guns. This will no doubt have been a factor.

Wouldn't be surprised if Richard Kelly is brought in as well... And maybe Emyr Phillips.
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