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    Posted: 29 August 2018 at 10:01am
No more aw so needn't worry about that anymore. Tbf those games have produced some hugely mismatched teams to the point where you know how the score will end. I can't blame people for not turning up if it meant a 4 hour commute for a hammering. Although one home game produced a great second half come back against bath which was really refreshing and not that long ago!
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Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

The trouble started when ST holders got free entry to RFC games. Then they started charging (£5 for ST holders) and people rebelled. Frankly it should never have been part of the ST or maybe to Premier and above only for example? Does the A league in England charge out of interest? They get some pretty good crowds as people realise that basically they are watching the guys that play for the firsts occasionally not just some unknowns. Here to be shot down but as a region, we have always had issues following anything but the `firsts` for some reason. Many don't even do to the AW games. Cant quite get my head around that, it's the Scarlet dragon on the shirt so what difference does it make? Always makes me chuckle at games when I hear people asking 'who's that on the wing? Who's the boy playing 7?' etc as they take no interest in the clubs, academy, colleges. Not sure what the region can do to change that.

But to be fair, people have every right to follow the Scarets how they want. Not everyone is into rugby that much. Those that are may have limited time - long commute, hard hours, 3 kids, little spare money, another hobby as well, so their time can only focus on the main squad. Generally though, I don't think the people of Llanelli know how lucky they are to have the Scarlets. A top class team in a town of 50,000 people. But when you see the crowd number per population, they match up pretty well to other places.
Oh totally agree with all that and I can subscribe to a few of those (4 hour commute for example). It's a shame that the crowds are poor as these are top class players many of whom we see week in week out playing for the firsts. Good entertaining rugby and it opens the door to the next big thing.
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Yes many clubs don't charge for A team matches BUT (a) that is clear to their supporters at the time STs are bought and (b) many/most/all of those clubs are charging a lot more for their STs than we are and in all cases the entertainment won't be as good!

No way should A games be free for our ST holders in my opinion. But A team admission prices should be low OR next season when you buy your ST there should be an option to pay a little bit more and also have free entry to all A team matches
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ScarletBear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2018 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

The trouble started when ST holders got free entry to RFC games. Then they started charging (£5 for ST holders) and people rebelled. Frankly it should never have been part of the ST or maybe to Premier and above only for example? Does the A league in England charge out of interest? They get some pretty good crowds as people realise that basically they are watching the guys that play for the firsts occasionally not just some unknowns. Here to be shot down but as a region, we have always had issues following anything but the `firsts` for some reason. Many don't even do to the AW games. Cant quite get my head around that, it's the Scarlet dragon on the shirt so what difference does it make? Always makes me chuckle at games when I hear people asking 'who's that on the wing? Who's the boy playing 7?' etc as they take no interest in the clubs, academy, colleges. Not sure what the region can do to change that.

But to be fair, people have every right to follow the Scarets how they want. Not everyone is into rugby that much. Those that are may have limited time - long commute, hard hours, 3 kids, little spare money, another hobby as well, so their time can only focus on the main squad. Generally though, I don't think the people of Llanelli know how lucky they are to have the Scarlets. A top class team in a town of 50,000 people. But when you see the crowd number per population, they match up pretty well to other places.
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Originally posted by CRYS16 CRYS16 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.

Thanks for the suggestion. CRYS16 are meeting with the Scarlets in a few weeks and we will add this to the agenda. 

Would it?
Wasnt the case when the semi pros was free to ST holders. Even when they had a decent side playing good stuff too. Few hundred maximum would turn up. Dont think theres been a significant drop.

How much are they looking to charge?

Plus the home A fixtures now will be shared amongs PYS, Llandovery and Carmarthen. A way for Llandovery and Carmarthen to attempt to get in a crowd and cash in. I think theres only 1 maybe 2 fixtures for A team announced for PYS.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote supertaf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2018 at 9:09am
The trouble started when ST holders got free entry to RFC games. Then they started charging (£5 for ST holders) and people rebelled. Frankly it should never have been part of the ST or maybe to Premier and above only for example? Does the A league in England charge out of interest? They get some pretty good crowds as people realise that basically they are watching the guys that play for the firsts occasionally not just some unknowns. Here to be shot down but as a region, we have always had issues following anything but the `firsts` for some reason. Many don't even do to the AW games. Cant quite get my head around that, it's the Scarlet dragon on the shirt so what difference does it make? Always makes me chuckle at games when I hear people asking 'who's that on the wing? Who's the boy playing 7?' etc as they take no interest in the clubs, academy, colleges. Not sure what the region can do to change that.
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with the loss of the LV cup and 3 fixtures for the season ticket, then surely these could be replaced by the A games?
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I think we should pay.

SATURDAY was free for some reason and crowd was crap.
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Originally posted by CRYS16 CRYS16 wrote:

Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.

Thanks for the suggestion. CRYS16 are meeting with the Scarlets in a few weeks and we will add this to the agenda. 

To reduce costs on security/admin etc., can they just open one stand? I would epxect a good gate to be in the hundreds, no?
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Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.

Thanks for the suggestion. CRYS16 are meeting with the Scarlets in a few weeks and we will add this to the agenda. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2018 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
Its a drop off tho, charging will significantly reduce the gate, where as st holders would come in greater numbers and spend more at the ground, probably making more than charging a fee to a much smaller crowd.

I think they should test the water and see if good numbers attend either way and review it maybe.
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Some of the significant costs of running a stadium complex are the security overheads and personally I see no reason not to charge something  modest to watch A rugby with free admission to children. 
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Following other sports such as cricket & soccer, (but not all of them I must admit) 2nd team games are normally free.

I see no harm in them being free, someone will need to, prepare cash floats, count & bank the money, pay extra for the people on the gate, (more responsibility) and probably the cost will be nearly as much as the anticipated profit from these games.

So on a cost value analysis I would back free games.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote salmidach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2018 at 11:31am
The A games should be free IMO to season ticket holders.

Edited by salmidach - 27 August 2018 at 11:31am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2018 at 10:32am
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


Why is it as fans some of people except to watch games for free,our season tickets are a bargain as it is roll on Ospreys away .

The Scarlets age grade games are all to pay and are great vaue .

They are not age grade tho, they are A games. Which really speaking should be available to season ticket holders.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 August 2018 at 9:15am
I think it's because some or all of the other regions are offering the 'A' games as free entry right?
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