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    Posted: 21 October 2011 at 12:55pm
That tackle (or assault) on Shane seemed far more dangerous to me than what Sam did last week. Can someone explain the difference please.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote salmidach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 1:04pm
Alain Rolland wasn't reffing

And I totally agree with you.. that was a very very dangerous tackle indeed...

nothing given though.....
Oh go on then just another Desperado
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 1:04pm
Haven't seen it to comment, but will do later ....

But from what I heard, there was NO lifting involved, so obviously it will come under a different Law !

& If it was a dangerous tackle, I suspect it wasn't seen by Barnes or AR, & it WILL be picked up by the Citing Commissioner ... If it is, & the player gets a ban, it kind of re-enforces last weeks decision.



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This past week I've given up trying to fathom the rule book vs. ref interpretation or consistency. From now on I'm going ignore all understanding of the game of rugby and just assume the ref is always right, I'll let you know how it works out!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote salmidach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 1:20pm
Jon.

it was a double tackle that spun ickle shane 360 degrees in the air and there wasn't even a penalty..

again all fans, players and coaches want is consistency. it's a bloody joke where a tackle that got warburton a 3 week ban (which in my opinion wasn't reckless or had any intent) compared to the one done on shane and nothing happens is the reason why rugby is such a joke sometimes when it comes to officiating.
Oh go on then just another Desperado
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Oh go on then just another Desperado
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote salmidach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 1:24pm
No use of the arms to wrap the player up what so every.. 
Oh go on then just another Desperado
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 1:29pm
Difficult one this. The tackler of the upper body had his arms around Shane. I don't see anything wrong with this.

The tackler of the lower body is what makes Shane flip up into the air. This looked like the more dangerous tackle to me. I think he initially goes for the charge down. But when he hits him it makes it look far worse than it is because Shane was airborne already. Could have been a penalty for dangerous play I reckon. But harsh if there is any sort of card for either tackle.
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TBH I don't see anything wrong with this. It looks like a charge down-cum tackle. A little late on Shane maybe but the tackler was already diving towards him when he kicked the ball.
 
Very harsh if we hear anything more on this IMO.  It looks a lot worse than it was due to Shane only being a small guy getting his legs taken from under him thus making him go arse over tit!!
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Originally posted by haydn_davies haydn_davies wrote:



TBH I don't see anything wrong with this. It looks like a charge down-cum tackle. A little late on Shane maybe but the tackler was already diving towards him when he kicked the ball.
 
Very harsh if we hear anything more on this IMO.  It looks a lot worse than it was due to Shane only being a small guy getting his legs taken from under him thus making him go arse over tit!!

If either of those tackels had been done in isolation, we wouldn't be having this conversation I expect.

But because both were done at the same time it looked like carnage.

You can't penalise both Aussies for not being telepathic.
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Originally posted by haydn_davies haydn_davies wrote:

TBH I don't see anything wrong with this. It looks like a charge down-cum tackle. A little late on Shane maybe but the tackler was already diving towards him when he kicked the ball.
 
Very harsh if we hear anything more on this IMO.  It looks a lot worse than it was due to Shane only being a small guy getting his legs taken from under him thus making him go arse over tit!!


Pocock Tackle legal both arms used below the collar,.... Palau NOT a tackle ... Both hands in front of Shane attempting charge down !

I think Citing WILL take a look, but dismiss it !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 1:52pm
Oh ... & I am looking at this neutrally ... as I have 6 Welsh, 1 Scottish & 1 French Great Grandparents !Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bazlewis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 2:17pm
Scarletman I thought it was a dangerous tackle as the forward looked to dive into shane with his shoulder first. I will watch it a couple of more times on Sky + and probably still see it as a penalty. But talking of inconsitency how far forward was hooks pass for shanes try.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 2:19pm
Wayne Barnes doesn't do forward passes. As history has shown.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SA14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2011 at 2:33pm
Are we going to have these debates on every dodgy tackle in future? 



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