Scarlet Fever Llanelli Rugby Sport Wales Tickets Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > SCARLETS > SCARLETS GENERAL
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Stop tarring us with the same brush
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Stop tarring us with the same brush
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 5>
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Huwbach View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 20 January 2007
Location: underthebridge
Status: Offline
Points: 2422 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Huwbach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Stop tarring us with the same brush
    Posted: 07 February 2012 at 5:40pm
I am sick to death with Reading generalised rugby commentary which highlights the plight of low attendances at all regions . I am not saying we are munster we probably never will be but not once have I read anything positive about our increase in attendance in all competitions , our family approach off the field and our development programme on it . We have all been through tough times recently but why doesn't someone report positively on the way things are for us and use them as a model . The ospreys back to flat caps and working class boys was a joke and insulting . They would have been much better to admit they were going to go down our route . I am sure with shane in charge and players like tipuric they will have a rebirth but for once it would be nice for someone outside the region to acknowledge what we have done . In the current climate we have excelled ...

Edited by Huwbach - 07 February 2012 at 9:09pm
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
ap sior View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 08 May 2005
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 2709 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ap sior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 6:07pm
Good points Huw, but I really do think that it is down to the marketing guys to get their message across. That's what they should be good at and that's what they should do !
Back to Top
roy munster View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 30 August 2010
Status: Online
Points: 1743 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 6:16pm
yeah agreed. lets flip the script. all this poor old wales, chippy nonsense is yesterdays news
we have a world class stadium with fantastic onsite training and corporate facilities too
 
were too obsessed with melancholic bad news. I was the first to criticize when I didnt feel the scarlets were making the best of their resources, but in recent times, crowds are averaging over 9000, the events programme has expanded even more rapidly and the development has accelerated hugely too. so its loads of exciting positive stuff. welsh rugby and maybe welsh media needs to remember its just as important to discuss good news as bad.
 
as my quack used to say, proaction beats reaction every timeTongue
ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
Back to Top
North London Scarlet View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: London
Status: Offline
Points: 1439 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote North London Scarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 6:26pm
Week in week out. Tonight 10.35 bbc wales. Investigation into state of welsh rugby. Could be worth a watch.
Ry'n ni yma o hyd...
Back to Top
M.M. View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 15 August 2004
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 2327 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M.M. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 6:31pm

Good news does not sell newspapers or make good stories on the tv news bulletins.

 
 
Back to Top
roy munster View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 30 August 2010
Status: Online
Points: 1743 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by North London Scarlet North London Scarlet wrote:

Week in week out. Tonight 10.35 bbc wales. Investigation into state of welsh rugby. Could be worth a watch.
if this docu isnt just another doom and gloom sensationalised show its serves little purpose
lets see a bit of cochyn....lets see the academies, the coaches, the fans, the singing and at the very least I want to see phil the power at parc y scarlets....in the end its all these developments that make the difference between winning and losing on and off the fieldWink
 
ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
Back to Top
roy munster View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 30 August 2010
Status: Online
Points: 1743 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by M.M. M.M. wrote:

Good news does not sell newspapers or make good stories on the tv news bulletins.

 
 
it does when Im holding the remote controlsWink
ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
Back to Top
no.6 View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
Truth hurts, you know i'm right

Joined: 26 July 2005
Location: Stonedhenge
Status: Online
Points: 7058 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote no.6 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 6:44pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by North London Scarlet North London Scarlet wrote:

Week in week out. Tonight 10.35 bbc wales. Investigation into state of welsh rugby. Could be worth a watch.
if this docu isnt just another doom and gloom sensationalised show its serves little purpose
lets see a bit of cochyn....lets see the academies, the coaches, the fans, the singing and at the very least I want to see phil the power at parc y scarlets....in the end its all these developments that make the difference between winning and losing on and off the fieldWink
 
That's a great point actually, I know the Liberty has had big concerts but as it's a predominantly football domain it doesn't really fit in with the jacks rugby business plan. What the sell out darts event showed is that Parc Y Scarlets/The local authority have a facility that can put on this type of event and make a profit out of it, and the people I know who went who aren't interested in rugby were full of praise for the evening. I've a few photos but they're too big to insert, and as i'm a bit of a technophobe I don't have the patience to sort it;)


Edited by no.6 - 07 February 2012 at 6:46pm
Carpe Diem
Back to Top
Tim Opolis View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 21 April 2008
Location: Llanelli
Status: Online
Points: 6984 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim Opolis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 8:56pm
Valid points Huwbach and we wont get much credit tonight you can count on it, but a quarter of pro welsh rugby in the Dragons get around 5,000? and the 2 biggest cities in Wales, close to strong rugby areas, attract pathetic crowds considering the population bases. We are very much bucking the trend and sadly Welsh pro rugby is in a bad place.
Tymor nesa Duw, plis tymor nesa.
Back to Top
Huwbach View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 20 January 2007
Location: underthebridge
Status: Offline
Points: 2422 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Huwbach Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 9:23pm
You're right tim it is sad and this thread was not meant to be 'look how good we are' because we are a long way off . It just nobody is highlighting what we have tried to do. Maybe tonights programme will shed some light into where we are going as a nation. IMO the blues and o's have tried to do things to big too fast and it's backfired . Nobody wants to sit in an empty environment , those who decided to make us a smaller venue did well . Get the facilities right ( new or old ) develop welsh players who will play for the shirt regardless of salary and work hard at connecting with the local community at a price that's fair but profitable. It's a big ask but I hope for the love of The game Wales can steer it's regions in the direction of sustainabilty and success.
Back to Top
KID A View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 16 August 2004
Location: Cardiff
Status: Online
Points: 14190 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by Huwbach Huwbach wrote:

I am sick to death with Reading generalised rugby commentary which highlights the plight of low attendances at all regions . I am not saying we are munster we probably never will be but not once have I read anything positive about our increase in attendance in all competitions , our family approach off the field and our development programme on it.


Well said. This was the first thing that popped into my head whilst watching the BBC Wales news too.
.

.
Back to Top
Tim Opolis View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 21 April 2008
Location: Llanelli
Status: Online
Points: 6984 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim Opolis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 9:38pm
Originally posted by Huwbach Huwbach wrote:

You're right tim it is sad and this thread was not meant to be 'look how good we are' because we are a long way off . It just nobody is highlighting what we have tried to do. Maybe tonights programme will shed some light into where we are going as a nation. IMO the blues and o's have tried to do things to big too fast and it's backfired . Nobody wants to sit in an empty environment , those who decided to make us a smaller venue did well . Get the facilities right ( new or old ) develop welsh players who will play for the shirt regardless of salary and work hard at connecting with the local community at a price that's fair but profitable. It's a big ask but I hope for the love of The game Wales can steer it's regions in the direction of sustainabilty and success.
 
It amazes me how many welsh people can travel to Scotland or Ireland, 30,000 to 40,000, on matchdays pubs and clubs all over Wales are full, roads are quiet everyone watches Wales, 70,000 regular in Cardiff, yet they dont follow the same players in their regional colours. Baffles me. 
Tymor nesa Duw, plis tymor nesa.
Back to Top
KID A View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 16 August 2004
Location: Cardiff
Status: Online
Points: 14190 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by Tim Opolis Tim Opolis wrote:


70,000 regular in Cardiff, yet they dont follow the same players in their regional colours. Baffles me. 


You only have to watch the programme that's on in 40 minutes to see why. Would we watch the Swansea Reds at the Liberty?

But we seem to be really picking things up off the field yet this gets washed over.
.

.
Back to Top
Tim Opolis View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 21 April 2008
Location: Llanelli
Status: Online
Points: 6984 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim Opolis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 9:48pm
Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

Originally posted by Tim Opolis Tim Opolis wrote:


70,000 regular in Cardiff, yet they dont follow the same players in their regional colours. Baffles me. 


You only have to watch the programme that's on in 40 minutes to see why. Would we watch the Swansea Reds at the Liberty?

But we seem to be really picking things up off the field yet this gets washed over.
 
Yeah Ive seen the preview of the guy in Bridgend talking, it would be interesting to hear a cross-section of opinion, but I'm expecting the BBC to do another over the top sensationalised load of bollox.
Tymor nesa Duw, plis tymor nesa.
Back to Top
ap sior View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 08 May 2005
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 2709 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ap sior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 9:56pm
Sadly the BBC make no revenue on advertising from the games. This is a point that has been mentioned before on here, if Sky were to get the rights to broadcast the Rabo then perhaps matches would be marketted better, raise expectations and thus push up attendances.
Back to Top
Mike View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 16 August 2004
Location: Cardiff
Status: Offline
Points: 13097 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 February 2012 at 9:59pm
There aren't many quality people at BBC Wales Sport, so tonight will be puddle-deep analysis with a pre-determined narrative.
>Scarlets Tries of the Season 2010/2011<
>Scarlets Tries of the Season 2009/2010<
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  123 5>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 3.891 seconds.