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Topic: The Other Side(s) - Rival Team News
Posted By: NobbySosban
Subject: The Other Side(s) - Rival Team News
Date Posted: 20 August 2018 at 11:20am
Ahead of the new season, I thought I'd start a thread for news from other PRO14 & Heineken Champions Cup teams...

Visiting fans from other clubs welcome to post their news, views & gossip here. Hug




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Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 20 August 2018 at 11:27am
ULSTER

Dan McFarland has been released by the SRU to start work as head coach with Ulster as of this morning (Mon 20 Aug).

Simon Easterby was temporarily drafted from the IRFU to manage the team ahead of McFarland's arrival, so it'll be interesting to see how quickly the reins change hands, especially as our first game of the season is at the Kinspan/Ravenhill - having two former Scarlets in their coaching set-up could benefit their preparation, but a switch of leadership leaves them potentially volatile so close to the opening game.

Gloucester beat them relatively easily in Belfast (you can see the full game on their Facebook page), and new outside half Billy Burns was injured in that game against his old club.

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UPDATE:
Ulster have also re-signed Ireland centre Stuart McCloskey until 2022, and expect Springbok flanker Marcell Coetzee back this weekend after a 12-month injury lay-off.




Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 20 August 2018 at 11:33am
SOUTHERN KINGS

Double announcement this morning - they have secured ISUZU SA as their headline shirt sponsor, and are now the first black-owned rugby franchise in South Africa, also creating an academy for the Eastern Cape's young talent - big day for them.

Originally posted by Southern Kings Southern Kings wrote:

This is the home of black rugby - our team will promote cohesion in South African society.

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Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 20 August 2018 at 11:42am
GLASGOW WARRIORS

Dave Rennie has appointed Ryan Wilson and Callum Gibbins as co-captains for this season.

Originally posted by Dave Rennie Dave Rennie wrote:

They work really well together and we have a big squad of 50 players, which is a lot to manage. They have complimentary skills, are both very passionate about this club and are hugely respected by all.

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 20 August 2018 at 11:50am
Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:

ULSTER

Dan McFarland has been released by the SRU to start work as head coach with Ulster as of this morning (Mon 20 Aug).

Simon Easterby was temporarily drafted from the IRFU to manage the team ahead of McFarland's arrival, so it'll be interesting to see how quickly the reins change hands, especially as our first game of the season is at the Kinspan/Ravenhill - having two former Scarlets in their coaching set-up could benefit their preparation, but a switch of leadership leaves them potentially volatile so close to the opening game.

Gloucester beat them relatively easily in Belfast (you can see the full game on their Facebook page), and new outside half Billy Burns was injured in that game against his old club.

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Interesting thread. Ulster in Belfast are no easy opposition. If we are near our best we will win. They still, for me, are a bit lightweight in the front 5 and have not successfully replaced their 9/10 axis. Burns doesn't cut it for me. I would love to see our first half team against Bath as the starters for Ulster. Our pack for that game hopefully will be :-

1. Rob 2. Ken 3 Samson 4. Ball 5. Cummins 6. McLoud 7. Davis 8. Casseim
Bench 16. Elias 17. Price/Evans 18. Werne 19. Bulbring 20. Kennedy.

As well as the injured list I have excluded Cubby as he had a busy summer; the only other player I also think may fit in this category is Hadleigh so lets start the season fully loaded and send out a message to our competitors.  


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 22 August 2018 at 4:36pm
EDINBURGH

Head coach Richard Cockerill has downplayed their chances for this season, saying that they have a long way to go to match Glasgow and the top teams in the PRO14.

Having appointed Stuary McInally as their captain for the new season, Cockers has also signed Scotland centre Matt Scott, Kiwi fly-half Simon Hickey, Glasgow scrum-half Henry Pyrgos, Newcastle back Juan Pablo Socino and Scotland back-rowers John Barclay and Luke Hamilton.

Originally posted by Cockers Cockers wrote:

The reality is though is that we have to better than Leinster, European champions and Pro14 champions, Scarlets - semi-finalists in Europe and finalists in the Pro14 - and Ulster.

All three sides spend significantly more money than we do and have a good, deep squad. The reality is we've got to be better than those three consistently.

Not sure where the Cockmeister is getting his player budget figures from, mind. Ermm

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Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 22 August 2018 at 4:51pm
DRAGONS

For their Thursday night pre-season friendly against Gloucester, Bernard Jackman has named 10 Welsh capped players in his starting XV. Is that the most ever? Shocked

15 Jordan Williams
14 Dafydd Howells
13 Tyler Morgan
12 Jack Dixon
11 Hallam Amos
10 Josh Lewis
 9 Rhodri Williams
 8 Lewis Evans
 7 Aaron Wainwright
 6 Huw Taylor
 5 Cory Hill (c)
 4 Brandon Nansen
 3 Leon Brown
 2 Richard Hibbard
 1 Ryan Bevington

Elliot Dee, Nic Cudd, Tavis Knoyle & Gavin Henson all on an extended bench of 14 replacements.

Glaws have named a strong side, with Banahan, 36, Ben Morgan and Danny Cipriani at 10, plus Polledri & Own Williams among the replacements.

Expect Robin Davey to predict a championship season if Dragons finish within 7 points. Wink




Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 8:25am
Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:

DRAGONS

For their Thursday night pre-season friendly against Gloucester, Bernard Jackman has named 10 Welsh capped players in his starting XV. Is that the most ever? Shocked

15 Jordan Williams
14 Dafydd Howells
13 Tyler Morgan
12 Jack Dixon
11 Hallam Amos
10 Josh Lewis
 9 Rhodri Williams
 8 Lewis Evans
 7 Aaron Wainwright
 6 Huw Taylor
 5 Cory Hill (c)
 4 Brandon Nansen
 3 Leon Brown
 2 Richard Hibbard
 1 Ryan Bevington

Elliot Dee, Nic Cudd, Tavis Knoyle & Gavin Henson all on an extended bench of 14 replacements.

Glaws have named a strong side, with Banahan, 36, Ben Morgan and Danny Cipriani at 10, plus Polledri & Own Williams among the replacements.

Expect Robin Davey to predict a championship season if Dragons finish within 7 points. Wink



Jackman will come under increasing pressure if that selection don't put up a decent show. Fixtures have given him a good start to the season and anything less than 12 points from the first 3 games will be unacceptable. He is about to find out how easy he had it last year. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 8:36am
The Ospreys backline against Saracens is very good, though for me their pack looks a little weak...

15 Dan Evans

14 George North

13 Scott Williams

12 Owen Watkin

11 Tom Williams

10 Sam Davies

9 Aled Davies 

 

1 Nicky Smith

2 Scott Baldwin

3 Tom Botha

4 Adam Beard

5 Bradley Davies

6 Sam Cross

7 Justin Tipuric (Capt)

8 James King

 

REPLACEMENTS 

16 Scott Otten

17 Rhodri Jones

18 Alex Jeffries

19 Giorgi Nemsadze

20 Ifan Phillips

21 Tom Habberfield

22 Luke Price

23 Luke Morgan

- Lloyd Ashley

- James Ratti

- Guido Volpi

- Matthew Aubrey

- Hanno Dirksen

- Cory Allen

- Joe Thomas

- James Hook

 



Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 9:02am
Their backline looks decent but we can take most of the credit for that, Sam Davies included. LOL


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 10:50am
Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Their backline looks decent but we can take most of the credit for that, Sam Davies included. LOL


Saracens in pretty much full warpaint- ie with most of their pack- will ensure that the Ospreys backline is completely irrelevant.


Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 4:54pm
TBH all they look good at is 12,13,14. The rest are good but not that good. Overhype once again.

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Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 4:55pm
I wouldn't take any one of their start XV over ours. The only osprey I would welcome would be AWJ

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 4:59pm
Originally posted by Mogwen Mogwen wrote:

I wouldn't take any one of their start XV over ours. The only osprey I would welcome would be AWJ

Starting I would take AWJ & Scott - the only 2. Of course George has the ability but needs to find the consistency.


Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 7:45pm
I mean in our strongest XV.

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The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 8:02pm
Ospreys can put out a decent XV.



Posted By: Mundoscarlet
Date Posted: 23 August 2018 at 9:06pm
GlOs are youtube live streaming and currently winning 40-12 oops dregso


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 24 August 2018 at 8:54am
Originally posted by Mogwen Mogwen wrote:

I mean in our strongest XV.

So do I. 


Posted By: M.M.
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 7:23am
Top 14 yesterday:

Toulon 9-27 Racing 92.

Great win for the Parisians.j


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 8:31am
Finn Russell on fire with 2 tries. Toulon might be in for a long season based on how they were manhandled by the Racing pack.



Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 26 August 2018 at 9:10am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Finn Russell on fire with 2 tries. Toulon might be in for a long season based on how they were manhandled by the Racing pack.


I am not Finn's biggest fan but he must have had a fine game. Typical of our luck to not get Toulon in our group when they are on the slide!!!!!


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 30 August 2018 at 12:30pm
Ospreys 17-13 Edinburgh - Liberty 31/8/18 7.35pm (Premier Sports 2)

OSPREYS
15 Dan Evans, 14 George North, 13 Scott Williams, 12 Owen Watkin, 11 Hanno Dirksen, 10 Luke Price, 9 Aled Davies
1 Nicky Smith, 2 Scott Otten, 3 Tom Botha, 4 Bradley Davies, 5 Alun Wyn Jones, 6 Dan Lydiate, 7 Justin Tipuric (Capt), 8 James King

REPLACEMENTS: 16 Scott Baldwin, 17 Rhodri Jones, 18 Alex Jeffries, 19 Adam Beard, 20 Sam Cross, 21 Tom Habberfield, 22 Sam Davies, 23 Joe Thomas

4 former Scarlets in the backline, with first competitive starts for Scott, Aled & George. Luke Price starts at 10 ahead of Sam Davies. Rhodri Jones covers at loosehead.

Unavailable for selection due to injury: Dan Baker – Knee, Olly Cracknell – Shoulder, Ma’afu Fia – Achilles, Gheorghe Gajion – Hamstring, Keelan Giles – Knee, Paul James – Shoulder, Lesley Klim – Hamstring, Rob McCusker – Calf, Sam Parry – Bicep, Gareth Thomas – Shoulder

EDINBURGH
15. Blair Kinghorn (64), 14. Dougie Fife (107), 13. Mark Bennett (12), 12. Matt Scott (74), 11. Duhan van der Merwe (18), 10. Simon Hickey*, 9. Henry Pyrgos*
1. Pierre Schoeman*, 2. Stuart McInally (120) CAPTAIN, 3. Simon Berghan (49), 4. Ben Toolis (88), 5. Grant Gilchrist (120), 6. Luke Hamilton*, 7. Hamish Watson (82), 8. Bill Mata (37)

Replacements: 16. Ross Ford (179); 17. Allan Dell (44); 18. Murray McCallum (38); 19. Fraser McKenzie (100); 20. Jamie Ritchie (48); 21. Sean Kennedy (60); 22. Jaco van der Walt (17); 23. James Johnstone (18)
*first competitive start for Edinburgh

Ref: John Lacey


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 30 August 2018 at 12:35pm
Cardiff 32-33 Leinster - CAP 31/8/18, k/o 7.35pm

CARDIFF BLUES
M Morgan; J Harries, W Halaholo, R Lee-Lo, O Lane; J Evans, L Williams; 
B Thyer, K Dacey, D Arhip, S Davies, R Thornton, J Turnbull, E Jenkins (c), N Williams.

Replacements: R Gill, E Lewis, S Andrews, G Earle, O Robinson, T Williams, S Shingler, G Smith.

LEINSTER
15. Dave Kearney (122), 14. Adam Byrne (38), 13. Rory O’Loughlin (42), 12. Joe Tomane (0), 11. Barry Daly (27), 10. Ross Byrne (49), 9. Luke McGrath (95)
1. Peter Dooley (47), 2. James Tracy (66), 3. Michael Bent (106), 4. Ross Molony (64), 5. Scott Fardy (22), 6. Josh Murphy (9), 7. Rhys Ruddock (142) CAPTAIN, 8. Caelan Doris (1)

16. Bryan Byrne (26), 17. Ed Byrne (23), 18. Andrew Porter (30), 19. Mick Kearney (35), 20. Max Deegan (21), 21. Jamison Gibson-Park (51), 22. Noel Reid (100), 23. Fergus McFadden (169)

REF: Nigel Owens (WRU)
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Never underestimate the squad depth at Leinster, but that's very much a second string travelling team - Cardiff should be taking the chance to get off to a flying start against the champions.


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 30 August 2018 at 1:09pm
Zebre 32-16 Southern Kings - Parma 31/8/18 at 7.35pm UK time (FreeSports):

ZEBRE
15 Matteo Minozzi*, 14 Mattia Bellini, 13 Giulio Bisegni, 12 Tommaso Castello (cap), 11 Giovanbattista Venditti*, 10 Carlo Canna, 9 Marcello Violi*
8 Renato Giammarioli*, 7 Johan Meyer, 6 David Sisi, 5 George Biagi, 4 Leonard Krumov*, 3 Dario Chistolini, 2 Oliviero Fabiani, 1 Andrea Lovotti*

Replacements: 16 Massimo Ceciliani*, 17 Daniele Rimpelli*, 18 Giosué Zilocchi*, 19 Apisai Tauyavuca, 20 Jimmy Tuivaiti, 21 Guglielmo Palazzani, 22 Francois Brummer, 23 Edoardo Padovani*
*former member of the Italian Rugby Union academy “Ivan Francescato” of Parma

SOUTHERN KINGS
15 Michael Botha, 14 Michael Makase, 13 Harlon Klassen, 12 Berton Klassen, 11 Yaw Penxe, 10 Masixole Banda, 9 Rudi van Rooyen
1 Justin Forwood, 2 Michael Willemse (C), 3 Luvuyo Pupuma, 4 Schalk Oelofse, 5 Bobby De Wee, 6 Henry Brown, 7 Martinus Burger, 8 Ruaan Lerm

Replacements: 16 Alandre Van Rooyen, 17 Schalk Ferreira, 18 Luphumlo Mguca, 19 John-Charles Astle, 20 Andisa Ntsila, 21 Godlen Masimla, 22 Martin Du Toit, 23 Ulrich Beyers

REF: Mike Adamson (SRU)


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 30 August 2018 at 1:11pm
Good luck to the ex Scarlets...


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 30 August 2018 at 3:26pm
Wayne Pivac heads into his final season as the most experienced head coach in the PRO14 - average length of head coach experience is 1.3 years.

Team Head Coach from Yrs Captain
Leinster Leo Cullen IE 2 Johnny Sexton
Scarlets Wayne Pivac NZ 4 Ken Owens
Glasgow Dave Rennie NZ 1 Ryan Wilson/Callum Gibbins
Munster Johann van Graan RSA 0.5 Peter O’Mahony
Edinburgh Richard Cockerill Eng 1 Stuary McInally
Cheetahs Franco Smith RSA 3 Teboho Mohoje
Ulster Dan McFarland Eng 0 Rory Best
Cardiff John Mulvihill Aus 0 Ellis Jenkins
Ospreys Allen Clarke Uls 0.5 Justin Tipuric
Benetton Kieran Crowley NZ 2 Dean Budd
Connacht Andy Friend Aus 0 Jarrad Butler
Zebre Michael Bradley IE 1 Tommaso Castello
Dragons Bernard Jackman IE 1 Cory Hill
Kings Deon Davids RSA 2 Michael Willemse
avr 1.29

Justin Tipuric takes over as Ospreys captain, with Alun Wyn Jones stepping down after 8 years.


 


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 31 August 2018 at 1:05pm
Dragons 17-21 Benetton Rugby - Rodney Parade 1/9/18, 7.35pm (Premier Sports 1)
 
DRAGONS
Jordan Williams, Dafydd Howells, Tyler Morgan, Jack Dixon, Hallam Amos, Gavin Henson, Rhodri Williams; 
Ryan Bevington, Richard Hibbard, Leon Brown, Brandon Nansen, Cory Hill (c), Lewis Evans, Aaron Wainwright, Ollie Griffiths

Replacements: Elliot Dee, Brok Harris, Lloyd Fairbrother, Matthew Screech, Huw Taylor, Tavis Knoyle, Josh Lewis, Adam Warren

BENETTON RUGBY
15 Jayden Hayward, 14 Ratuva Tavuyara, 13 Tommaso Benvenuti, 12 Alberto Sgarbi, 11 Monty Ioane, 10 Tommaso Allan, 9 Tito Tebaldi, 8 Marco Barbini, 7 Sebastian Negri, 6 Abraham Steyn, 5 Dean Budd (C), 4 Alessandro Zanni, 3 Tiziano Pasquali, 2 Hame Faiva, 1 Federico Zani.

Available: 16 Engjel Makelara, 17 Derrick Appiah, 18 Simone Ferrari, 19 Marco Fuser, 20 Federico Ruzza, 21 Marco Lazzaroni, 22 Giorgio Bronzini, 23 Tommaso Iannone

REF: George Clancy (IRFU)

Not a bad looking Benetton side, but surely - surely - a chance for the star-studded Dragons to get to half of their 2017/18 'Win' total. Embarrassed


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 31 August 2018 at 1:12pm
Connacht 26-27 Glasgow - Galway Sportsground 1/9/18, 3pm (Premier Sports 1)

CONNACHT
(15-9) Tiernan O’Halloran, Cian Kelleher, Kyle Godwin, Tom Farrell, Matt Healy, Jack Carty, Caolin Blade
(1-8) Denis Buckley, Dave Heffernan, Finlay Bealham, Ultan Dillane, James Cannon, Paul Boyle, Jarrad Butler, Eoin McKeon.

Replacements (16-23): Shane Delahunt, Peter McCabe, Conor Carey, Quinn Roux, Cillian Gallagher, James Mitchell, Craig Ronaldson, Niyi Adeolokun.

GLASGOW WARRIORS
1. Oli Kebble (9), 2. George Turner (19), 3. Zander Fagerson (69), 4. Scott Cummings (38), 5. Jonny Gray (86), 6. Rob Harley (184), 7. Callum Gibbins (15) (CC), 8. Ryan Wilson (140) (CC)
9. George Horne (20), 10. Adam Hastings (9), 11. DTH van der Merwe (101), 12. Peter Horne (138), 13. Nick Grigg (42), 14. Tommy Seymour (115), 15. Stuart Hogg (107)

Replacements: 16. Fraser Brown (75), 17. Alex Allan (74), 18. D’Arcy Rae (39), 19. Adam Ashe (52), 20. Chris Fusaro (142), 21. Nick Frisby (0), 22. Alex Dunbar (111), 23. Niko Matawalu (92)

REF: Ian Davies (WRU)

That's a strong-looking Glasgie XXIII. Shocked


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 31 August 2018 at 1:17pm
Munster 38-0 Cheetahs - Thomond Park 1/9/18, 5.15pm (Premier Sports 2)

MUNSTER
Mike Haley; Darren Sweetnam, Dan Goggin, Rory Scannell, Shane Daly; JJ Hanrahan, Neil Cronin; 
Dave Kilcoyne, Mike Sherry, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland (C); Dave O’Callaghan, Tommy O’Donnell, Arno Botha

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, Brian Scott, Stephen Archer, Darren O’Shea, Gavin Coombes, James Hart, Joey Carbery, Sammy Arnold.

CHEETAHS
15 Malcolm Jaer, 14 Rabz Maxwane, 13 Benhard Janse van Rensburg, 12 Nico Lee, 11 William Small-Smith, 10 Tian Schoeman, 9 Shaun Venter
1 Ox Nche, 2 Jacques du Toit, 3 Luan de Bruin, 4 Justin Basson, 5 JP du Preez, 6 Junior Pokomela, 7 Oupa Mohoje, 8 Jasper Wiese

Replacements: 16 Joseph Dweba, 17 Charles Marais, 18 Aranos Coetzee, 19 Walt Steenkamp, 20 Aidon Davis, 21 Tian Meyer, 22 Ernst Stapelberg, 23 Ryno Eksteen

REF: Dan Jones (WRU)


Posted By: SospanMawr
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 8:05am
Well after the first 3 games what do we all think?
I don’t want to talk them up too much but a very weak Leinster side gave Cardiff hell. In fairness the Blues capitulated, but the Leinster attitude and ability to grind down teams is just scary.

Edinburgh and the Ospreys seemed to cancel each other out, from what I saw of it. Both will take their scalps this season, but both need to improve to challenge for the play offs especially the Os. Their backline looked good going forward and defensively mind. As if should seeing as its at least half Scarlet

I didn’t see much of Zebre / Kings but solid win for Zebre by the looks of things? They’ll surprise some teams at home I think. Don’t see what the Kings bring though.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 9:06am
The Blues threw it away really but you cannot ever write off a Leinster team even if it is the 2nd team. At 29-14 with 4 tries already & 30 minutes to go the Blues should have been able to get there. Lots to work on. The Ospreys match was awful for 50 minutes. They had plenty of possession but lacked the spark. Scott & Aled were solid & George looked hungry for work which is good to see. I noticed that Scott kicked more in this game than he did in a whole season with us - clearly part of the gameplan. Botha looks a decent signing as the O's scrum had the edge. Cockers won't be happy - far too many mistakes. Too early to judge anyone yet. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 9:27am
Ospreys have little depth, they will surely sacrifice Europe in pursuit of a league finish to play top tier next term.

Starting 10 ( Price) looks to have sustained a long term knee injury, after Sam they are down to the likes of Hook as their best option.

They have a decent opening 5 games. They need to go well as the squad depth will count against them as the season develops.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 9:28am
Kings were woeful and look set to be the conference whipping boys.


Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 10:30am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Ospreys have little depth, they will surely sacrifice Europe in pursuit of a league finish to play top tier next term.

Starting 10 ( Price) looks to have sustained a long term knee injury, after Sam they are down to the likes of Hook as their best option.

They have a decent opening 5 games. They need to go well as the squad depth will count against them as the season develops.

Half backs were always going to be an issue with Webb and Biggar leaving but it is a big chance for Sam Davies but Webb is a massive loss for them. Hook is a decent option as well and has vast experience for the league plus is a very solid goalkicker. Decent seconds but not a huge amount to fear from their pack and, as you say, will be some untested players in the front line soon enough.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 12:16pm
For the Blues to concede 3 forward oriented tries in 27 minutes against a Leinster team without the Irish front 5 will be huge cause for concern & will lead to them being targeted there in the next few games. It was good to see Jason Harries play so well. He is a handful & brings into question why he & SHC were allowed to leave Edinburgh. 


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 3:13pm
The blues were pretty much at full strength up front so they will be quite concerned. The Ospreys are a quite short of depth, they will struggle during the international windows, as the marquee players they have brought in (Scott and GN, plus Aled) will be away during those periods and the players let don’t have the same abilities. I also have concerns about their pack, they haven’t really strengthened and in fact have lost Arhip and Thornton to the blues


Posted By: Dafen Boy
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 3:54pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

The Blues threw it away really but you cannot ever write off a Leinster team even if it is the 2nd team. At 29-14 with 4 tries already & 30 minutes to go the Blues should have been able to get there. Lots to work on. The Ospreys match was awful for 50 minutes. They had plenty of possession but lacked the spark. Scott & Aled were solid & George looked hungry for work which is good to see. I noticed that Scott kicked more in this game than he did in a whole season with us - clearly part of the gameplan. Botha looks a decent signing as the O's scrum had the edge. Cockers won't be happy - far too many mistakes. Too early to judge anyone yet. 

Blues could not handle Leinster seconds on a dry day on the plastic pitch.  Does no augur well for a wet muddy surface in the November-March period.

Ospreys will be about a 10 win team I would guess


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 01 September 2018 at 9:18pm
.

Leicester lost 40-6 at Exeter


Posted By: kcreg
Date Posted: 02 September 2018 at 9:12am
dragons lost to Treviso last night.what's jackmans excuse this time I wonder?

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OSPREYS 9-SCARLETS 14!
OSPEYS 16-SCARLETS 25!


Posted By: kcreg
Date Posted: 02 September 2018 at 9:13am
Treviso look a very good outfit,dare I say,this season though.

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I WAS THERE-LIBERTY STADIUM 11/9/07 & 26/3/16

OSPREYS 9-SCARLETS 14!
OSPEYS 16-SCARLETS 25!


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 02 September 2018 at 9:20am
Originally posted by kcreg kcreg wrote:


Treviso look a very good outfit,dare I say,this season though.

Played well, good organized and in a good form..Little worried about this game


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 02 September 2018 at 9:39am
Could reach the top 3 in our conference this year.

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Posted By: M.M.
Date Posted: 02 September 2018 at 12:26pm
  
 Exeter 40 - 6 Leicester Tigers.

Bit of a tonking yesterday for one of our European opponents.

Racing 92 play Clermont this afternoon in Paris.


Posted By: M.M.
Date Posted: 02 September 2018 at 6:04pm
Final score from Paris:
Racing92 17 - 40 Clermont Auvergne.

 A very heavy home defeat for our first opponents in Europe this season. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 02 September 2018 at 7:40pm
Cheetahs were oddly not too bad v Munster despite the 38-0 score.

But they really are ‘obviously’ so young and inexperienced across the park, and so make a raft of basic errors, that Munster’s older/wiser heads could easily take advantage of.


Posted By: Rich (Bris)
Date Posted: 03 September 2018 at 10:06am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Cheetahs were oddly not too bad v Munster despite the 38-0 score.

But they really are ‘obviously’ so young and inexperienced across the park, and so make a raft of basic errors, that Munster’s older/wiser heads could easily take advantage of.


I know Cheetahs are still in the Currie Cup this year - so are they trying to stretch one squad across two competitions like last season or have they got a dedicated Pro 14 squad which has their best players in it?


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 03 September 2018 at 10:21am
You are right, they have also lost a couple of their best players to the national squad ( Mapimpi the winger for example..real handful).

They seem to split resources between Currie cup and Pro 14 on paper, but for sure the media and fans see the Currie Cup as the priority.

They are indeed really stretched right now.


Posted By: SospanMawr
Date Posted: 03 September 2018 at 12:57pm
Good read on Leicester’s toothless attack vs Exeter here %20" rel="nofollow - https://www.rugbypass.com/news/toothless-tigers-worrying-aspects-leicesters-attack

While the article is quite anti Matt O’Connor I must admit I don’t see the fuss either. Also has to be tempered by the fact it was the first game of the season and they were playing the superb Exeter, but bodes well for us in Europe.


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 03 September 2018 at 1:41pm
5 of the opening weekend's PRO14 games finished with 4 points or fewer between the teams - two 1-point wins, one 2-pointer and two 4-pointers.

Only the games against travelling South African teams resulted in comfortable home wins.

It's early, and teams are still shaking down, but that's a tight, competitive start to a long season.




Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 03 September 2018 at 8:43pm
The Racing front row conceded a sackful of penalties at scrum time.

They were royally outplayed and stuffed by Clermont.

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Posted By: Rich (Bris)
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 9:59am
But Racing comfortably beat Toulon away last week so this result may say more about Clermont at the start of this season than Racing.


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 10:34am
Originally posted by SospanMawr SospanMawr wrote:

Good read on Leicester’s toothless attack vs Exeter here %20" rel="nofollow - https://www.rugbypass.com/news/toothless-tigers-worrying-aspects-leicesters-attack

While the article is quite anti Matt O’Connor I must admit I don’t see the fuss either. Also has to be tempered by the fact it was the first game of the season and they were playing the superb Exeter, but bodes well for us in Europe.

And, one game into the new season, Matt O'Connor and Leicester Tigers have parted company.

Geordan Murphy will be in temporary charge - given that he was reportedly in consideration for for the Cardiff Blues head coach job in the summer, he probably has the ambition to take this on permanently, and will have the players' respect. They'll soon be a different prospect with a change of leadership, but whether that can happen in 6 weeks remains to be seen...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45402800" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/45402800




Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 3:19pm
The Ospreys are considering recruiting a fly-half as injury cover following the news that young No. 10 Luke Price is going to be sidelined for at least four months. Price, a shock selection ahead of Sam Davies for last weekend’s Guinness PRO14 opener against Edinburgh, suffered a fractured tibia during the first half of the victory.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 3:28pm
Henson already hurtling down the M4 I suspect !



Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 3:33pm
Originally posted by Dafen Boy Dafen Boy wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

The Blues threw it away really but you cannot ever write off a Leinster team even if it is the 2nd team. At 29-14 with 4 tries already & 30 minutes to go the Blues should have been able to get there. Lots to work on. The Ospreys match was awful for 50 minutes. They had plenty of possession but lacked the spark. Scott & Aled were solid & George looked hungry for work which is good to see. I noticed that Scott kicked more in this game than he did in a whole season with us - clearly part of the gameplan. Botha looks a decent signing as the O's scrum had the edge. Cockers won't be happy - far too many mistakes. Too early to judge anyone yet. 


Blues could not handle Leinster seconds on a dry day on the plastic pitch.  Does no augur well for a wet muddy surface in the November-March period.

Ospreys will be about a 10 win team I would guess



Pretty accurate I suggest. They are going to need to win a slab of that early season.

An interesting footnote on how things have swung dramatically for the Os in recent times.

22/23 of the O’s players were Welsh for last weekends game, only uncapped Tom Botha was not qualified to play for Wales ( yet).


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Dafen Boy Dafen Boy wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

The Blues threw it away really but you cannot ever write off a Leinster team even if it is the 2nd team. At 29-14 with 4 tries already & 30 minutes to go the Blues should have been able to get there. Lots to work on. The Ospreys match was awful for 50 minutes. They had plenty of possession but lacked the spark. Scott & Aled were solid & George looked hungry for work which is good to see. I noticed that Scott kicked more in this game than he did in a whole season with us - clearly part of the gameplan. Botha looks a decent signing as the O's scrum had the edge. Cockers won't be happy - far too many mistakes. Too early to judge anyone yet. 


Blues could not handle Leinster seconds on a dry day on the plastic pitch.  Does no augur well for a wet muddy surface in the November-March period.

Ospreys will be about a 10 win team I would guess



Pretty accurate I suggest. They are going to need to win a slab of that early season.

An interesting footnote on how things have swung dramatically for the Os in recent times.

22/23 of the O’s players were Welsh for last weekends game, only uncapped Tom Botha was not qualified to play for Wales ( yet).

Very interesting stat that Wil. Probably down to a combination of resource and the fact that their overseas recruitment in recent years has been pretty underwhelming particularly when compared to the Scarlets. 


Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 4:53pm
Hook is still an Ospreys player?

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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 04 September 2018 at 8:11pm
Duw yes.


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 05 September 2018 at 4:32pm
Sam Davies, James Hook, Cai Evans...not sure why they are suggesting a short term loan to be honest.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 05 September 2018 at 5:26pm
Hook is an utility back. They’ll need him somewhere other than 10 in the AI window for sure.



Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 06 September 2018 at 1:05pm
Ulster 30-29 Edinburgh, Guinness PRO14, Friday 7th September, Kingspan Stadium (7.35pm):

ULSTER
(15-9): W Addison; C Gilroy, D Cave, S McCloskey, H Speight; B Burns, J personey;
(1-8): A Warwick, R Herring (captain), R Kane , K Treadwell, I Henderson, M Coetzee, J Murphy, N Timoney;

Replacements (16-23): A McBurney, E O’Sullivan, W Herbst, A O’Connor, S Reidy, D Shanahan, A Curtis, A Kernohan

Jordi Murphy makes his Ulster debut as they return to their rightful Friday night slot.

EDINBURGH
15. Blair Kinghorn (65), 14. Dougie Fife (108), 13. Mark Bennett (13), 12. Matt Scott (75), 11. Tom Brown (113), 10. Simon Hickey (1), 9. Henry Pyrgos (1)
1. Pierre Schoeman (1), 2. Stuart McInally (121) CAPTAIN, 3. WP Nel (116), 4. Ben Toolis (89), 5. Grant Gilchrist (121), 6. Luke Hamilton (1), 7. Jamie Ritchie (49), 8. Bill Mata (38)

Replacements: 16. Ross Ford (180); 17. Allan Dell (45); 18. Murray McCallum (39); 19. Fraser McKenzie (101); 20. Luke Crosbie (12); 21. Sean Kennedy (61); 22. Jaco van der Walt (18); 23. James Johnstone (19)

REF: Stuart Berry (SARU)


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 06 September 2018 at 1:31pm
Glasgow 25-10 Munster - Scotstoun Stadium, Friday 7 September, kick off 7.35pm – live on Premier Sports 2. 

GLASGOW WARRIORS
1 – Oli Kebble (10), 2 – Fraser Brown (76), 3 – Zander Fagerson (70), 4 – Rob Harley (185), 5 – Jonny Gray (87), 6 – Ryan Wilson (CC) (141), 7 – Callum Gibbins (CC) (16), 8 – Adam Ashe (53)
9 – George Horne (21), 10 – Adam Hastings (10), 11 – DTH van der Merwe (102), 12 – Peter Horne (139), 13 – Nick Grigg (43), 14 – Tommy Seymour (116), 15 – Stuart Hogg (108)

Replacements: 16 – George Turner (20), , 17 – Jamie Bhatti (27), 18 – D’Arcy Rae (40), 19 – Scott Cummings (39), 20 – Matt Fagerson (26), 21 – Ali Price (57), 22 – Alex Dunbar (112), 23 – Niko Matawalu (93)

MUNSTER
Mike Haley; Darren Sweetnam, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Shane Daly; JJ Hanrahan, Neil Cronin; Dave Kilcoyne, Mike Sherry, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland (C); Dave O’Callaghan, Tommy O’Donnell, Arno Botha.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Fineen Wycherley, Tadhg Beirne, Duncan Williams, Joey Carbery, Jaco Taute

Tadgh on the bench as back row replacement...

REF: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 12:14pm
Connacht 32-13 Zebre - Sportsground, Sat 8 Sept, 5:15pm:

CONNACHT
(15-9) Tiernan O’Halloran, Cian Kelleher, Eoin Griffin, Kyle Godwin, Matt Healy, Jack Carty, Caolin Blade, (1-8) Denis Buckley, Dave Heffernan, Finlay Bealham, Gavin Thornbury, Quinn Roux, Sean O’Brien, Jarrad Butler, Paul Boyle.

Replacements (16-23): Shane Delahunt, Conán O’Donnell, Dominic Robertson-McCoy, James Cannon, Colby Fainga’a, Kieran Marmion, Craig Ronaldson, Niyi Adeolokun

ZEBRE
15 Edoardo Padovani*, 14 Mattia Bellini, 13 Giulio Bisegni, 12 Nicolas De Battista, 11 Giovanbattista Venditti*, 10 Carlo Canna, 9 Marcello Violi*
8 Renato Giammarioli*, 7 Johan Meyer, 6 Matu Tevi, 5 George Biagi (cap), 4 David Sisi, 3 Giosué Zilocchi*, 2 Oliviero Fabiani, 1 Andrea Lovotti*

Replacements: 16 Massimo Ceciliani*, 17 Daniele Rimpelli*, 18 Roberto Tenga, 19 Apisai Tauyavuca, 20 Jimmy Tuivaiti, 21 Guglielmo Palazzani, 22 Francois Brummer, 23 Tommaso Boni*

REF: Lloyd Linton (SRU)


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 12:24pm
Ospreys team 46-14 Cheetahs - Liberty Stadium, Sat 8 Sept, 5.30pm

OSPREYS
15 Dan Evans, 14 George North, 13 Scott Williams, 12 Owen Watkin, 11 Tom Williams, 10 Sam Davies, 9 Aled Davies 
1 Nicky Smith, 2 Scott Otten, 3 Tom Botha, 4 Bradley Davies, 5 Alun Wyn Jones, 6 Dan Lydiate, 7 Justin Tipuric (Capt), 8 James King

REPLACEMENTS: 16 Scott Baldwin, 17 Rhodri Jones, 18 Alex Jeffries, 19 Adam Beard, 20 Sam Cross, 21 Tom Habberfield, 22 James Hook, 23 Joe Thomas

CHEETAHS
15 – Malcolm Jaer, 14 – Rabz Maxwane, 13 – Benhard Janse van Rensburg, 12 – Nico Lee, 11 – William Small-Smith, 10 – Tian Schoeman, 9 – Shaun Venter
1 – Ox Nche, 2 – Jacques du Toit, 3 – Luan de Bruin, 4 – Justin Basson, 5 – JP du Preez, 6 – Junior Pokomela, 7 – Aidon Davis, 8 – Jasper Wiese

16 – Joseph Dweba, 17 – Charles Marais, 18 – Aranos Coetzee, 19 – Walt Steenkamp, 20 – Gerhard Olivier, 21 – Tian Meyer, 22 – Ernst Stapelberg/Marnus van der Merwe, 23 – Ryno Eksteen

REF: Andrew Brace (IRFU)


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 12:29pm
Once you scratch the surface of the Ospreys team, the bench looks very weak...


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 12:50pm
Benetton team 26-25 Cardiff Blues - Stadio Monigo, Sat 8 Sept, 7.35pm (UK time):

BENETTON RUGBY
15 Jayden Hayward, 14 Ratuva Tavuyara, 13 Tommaso Benvenuti, 12 Luca Morisi, 11 Monty Ioane, 10 Tommaso Allan, 9 Tito Tebaldi, 8 Robert Barbieri, 7 Sebastian Negri, 6 Abraham Steyn, 5 Dean Budd (C), 4 Marco Fuser, 3 Tiziano Pasquali, 2 Hame Faiva, 1 Nicola Quaglio.

Replacements: 16 Engjel Makelara, 17 Cherif Traore, 18 Simone Ferrari, 19 Irne Herbst, 20 Marco Lazzaroni, 21 Marco Barbini, 22 Dewaldt Duvenage, 23 Marco Zanon

CARDIFF BLUES
Matthew Morgan; Jason Harries, Rey Lee-Lo, Willis Halaholo, Owen Lane; Jarrod Evans, Lloyd Williams; 
Brad Thyer, Kristian Dacey, Dmitri Arhip, George Earle, Rory Thornton, Josh Turnbull, Ellis Jenkins (capt), Nick Williams.

Replacements: Ethan Lewis, Rhys Gill, Dillon Lewis, Josh Navidi, Olly Robinson, Tomos Williams, Gareth Anscombe, Garyn Smith

REF: Sean Gallagher (IRFU)


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 1:04pm
Dragons 27-22 Isuzu Southern Kings - Rodney Parade, Sat 8 Sept, 3pm:

DRAGONS
Jordan Williams, Dafydd Howells, Tyler Morgan, Jack Dixon, Hallam Amos, Josh Lewis, Rhodri Williams; Brok Harris, Elliot Dee, Leon Brown, Matthew Screech, Cory Hill (c), Ollie Griffiths, Aaron Wainwright, Ross Moriarty

Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Ryan Bevington, Lloyd Fairbrother, Brandon Nansen, Huw Taylor, Tavis Knoyle, Arwel Robson, Adam Warren

SOUTHERN KINGS
15 Yaw Penxe, 14 Michael Makase, 13 Harlon Klassen, 12 Berton Klassen, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Masixole Banda, 9 Rudi van Rooyen
1 Justin Forwood, 2 Michael Willemse (C), 3 Luvuyo Pupuma, 4 Schalk Oelofse, 5 Bobby De Wee, 6 S de Wit, 7 Martinus Burger, 8 Andisa Ntsila

Replacements
16 Alandre Van Rooyen, 17 Schalk Ferreira, 18 Luphumlo Mguca, 19 John-Charles Astle, 20 Ruaan Lerm, 21 Godlen Masimla, 22 Martin Du Toit, 23 Ulrich Beyers

REF: Frank Murphy (IRFU)

Surely - suuuuurely - Moriarty will have a thumping victory to celebrate on his Dragons debut...




Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 1:58pm
Ex Scarlet Academy or Picked up by Scarlets players:

Just think it's amazing work by the Scarlets academy to have so many players making the grade through regional rugby and making this weekends match day squads.

OSPREYS

Dan Evans,
George North,
Scott Williams
Aled Davies 
Rhodri Jones

DRAGONS

Jordan Williams
Josh Lewis
Rhodri Williams
Tavis Knoyle
Adam Warren

CARDIFF BLUES

Josh Turnbull







Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 2:03pm
Tavis wasn't a product of our academy was he?

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Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 9:18pm
He wasn’t a product of our academy but he wasn’t getting anywhere in the Ospreys academy so left and headed west, where it really took off for him. Remember, when he was at the Ospreys academy they had Justin Marshall, Martin Roberts (who followed him to PYS not long after) and Rhys Webb, who was also struggling to get game time.


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 07 September 2018 at 9:34pm
Just been reading some of the reports coming from Ulster, it appears that they may have had some help again from the TMO tonight (not sure where the tmo is from), Scottish reporter claims that tmo awarded an Ulster try despite what he called clear blocking of the Edinburgh tackler/s. No change there then.
They have just beaten Edinburgh with a last minute penalty kick from personey. That’s 2 weeks running they have been awarded kickable penaulties with the last play of the game and taken them, incredible!


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 08 September 2018 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

Ex Scarlet Academy or Picked up by Scarlets players:

Just think it's amazing work by the Scarlets academy to have so many players making the grade through regional rugby and making this weekends match day squads.

OSPREYS

Dan Evans,
George North,
Scott Williams
Aled Davies 
Rhodri Jones
Sam Parry
Rob McCusker
Ifan Phillips
Gareth Thomas


add the fact that two of their fly halves, Sam Davies and Cai Evans are sons of Scarlets legends!!

DRAGONS
Jordan Williams
Josh Lewis
Rhodri Williams
Tavis Knoyle
Adam Warren
Nic Cudd
Gavin Henson
Rhys Lawrence
Rhodri Davies


CARDIFF BLUES
Josh Turnbull
Steve Shingler
Kirby Myhill
Jack Roberts
Sion Bennett

not sure if you want to include smiler and George Earle.


I'm sure there' s more but added the ones in blue from the top of my head.


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 08 September 2018 at 3:40pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Tavis wasn't a product of our academy was he?
if i remeber correctly he was released from ospreys academy and not offered a deal - we gave him a development deal?


Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 08 September 2018 at 11:27pm
Scott Williams has picked up an injury to his ol hammy - out for the scarlets game?


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 09 September 2018 at 5:42am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Once you scratch the surface of the Ospreys team, the bench looks very weak...


Absolutely. Lost Dan Evs, Scott and Nicky Smith this week.

Difficult to see how they will find wins in the International windows.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 09 September 2018 at 5:43am
Originally posted by Owen111 Owen111 wrote:

Scott Williams has picked up an injury to his ol hammy - out for the scarlets game?


Comfortably. He’ll be gutted.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 09 September 2018 at 9:32am
Wish Scott a speedy recovery - but not too speedy if you get my drift!!!!! Take him out of that Ospreys midfield and Hadleigh & Foxy could have a ball!!!!


Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 09 September 2018 at 9:49am
Tavis rejected a deal, they did there best to keep him, and some Cuddy was one who was really jumping about, wanting the WRU to change the rules, but all was done legally.

Sad he fell away, but he has always found trouble easy to find, but a guy I'd love to have a pint with.


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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 09 September 2018 at 9:59am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Owen111 Owen111 wrote:

Scott Williams has picked up an injury to his ol hammy - out for the scarlets game?


Comfortably. He’ll be gutted.

Sorry to hear that, even though it improves the Scarlets' chances, obviously.


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Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 12 September 2018 at 1:16pm
DRAGONS

Back Zane Kirchner has moved to Bristol for a month's loan to cover the injured Charles Piutau and 'get some game time'.

Leaves Dragons with 2 recognised full-backs in Hallam Amos and Jordan Williams.

Dragons face Leinster, Zebre, Glasgow and Cardiff in the PRO14 before the Challenge Cup games start.

http://www.dragonsrugby.wales/News/Article/52914" rel="nofollow - http://www.dragonsrugby.wales/News/Article/52914



Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 13 September 2018 at 1:42pm
Ospreys have made 12 changes for their trip to Munster tomorrow

Munster: Mike Haley; Andrew Conway, Sammy Arnold, Dan Goggin, Darren Sweetnam; Joey Carbery, Duncan Williams; James Cronin, Rhys Marshall, Stephen Archer; Tadhg Beirne, Darren O'Shea; Peter O'Mahony (capt), Chris Cloete, Arno Botha.

Replacements: Mike Sherry, Dave Kilcoyne, John Ryan, Jean Kleyn, Tommy O'Donnell, James Hart, Ian Keatley, Jaco Taute.

Ospreys: James Hook, Tom Williams, Joe Thomas, Cory Allen, Luke Morgan, Sam Davies, Tom Habberfield Rhodri Jones, Scott Baldwin, Tom Botha, Giorgi Nemsadze, Adam Beard, Olly Cracknell (Cap), Morgan Morris, Sam Cross

Replacements: Ifan Phillips, Nicky Smith, Alex Jeffries, James Ratti, Guido Volpi, Matthew Aubrey,Tiaan Thomas-Wheeler, Hanno Dirksen



Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 13 September 2018 at 6:16pm
Ospreys bending the knee to Munster then


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 13 September 2018 at 7:19pm
Originally posted by Owen111 Owen111 wrote:

Ospreys bending the knee to Munster then

It looks like it - surely, that is a very long way from the Os best team? They may have missed a trick, as the Munster team also looks some way off the strongest possible to me, but I'm not an expert on their squad so maybe that's not the case.


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Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 13 September 2018 at 10:17pm
Such a shame to see the Ospreys throw in the towel, I find getting one over on the irish more satisfying than getting one over the English these days!


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 4:07am
They will do the time and again this season. The Os are considerably worse off than any region right now.

They are about 5 injuries away from being Merthyr rfc.


Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 11:28am
Edinburgh 17-10 Connacht - Fri 14 Sept, 7.35pm (Prem Sports 1)

EDINBURGH
15 Blair Kinghorn, 14 Dougie Fife, 13 James Johnstone, 12 Matt Scott, 11 Duhan van der Merwe, 10 Simon Hickey, 9 Henry Pyrgos
1 Pierre Schoeman, 2 Stuart McInally (c), 3 Willem Nel, 4 Ben Toolis, 5 Grant Gilchrist, 6 Jamie Ritchie, 7 Hamish Watson, 8 Luke Hamilton
REPLACEMENTS: 16 Ross Ford, 17 Allan Dell, 18 Simon Berghan, 19 Fraser McKenzie, 20 Magnus Bradbury, 21 Sean Kennedy, 22 Jaco van der Walt, 23 Juan Pablo Socino


CONNACHT
(15-9) Tiernan O’Halloran, Niyi Adeolokun, Eoin Griffin, Kyle Godwin, Matt Healy, Jack Carty, Kieran Marmion
(1-8) Conan O’Donnell, Dave Heffernan, Finlay Bealham, Gavin Thornbury, Ultan Dillane, Sean O’Brien, Jarrad Butler, Paul Boyle.
Replacements (16-23): Shane Delahunt, Peter McCabe, Dominic Robertson-McCoy, James Cannon, Colby Fainga’a, Caolin Blade, Craig Ronaldson, Bundee Aki.



Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 4:39pm
Leinster 52-10 Dragons - Sat 15 Sept, 5.15pm

LEINSTER
15. Rob Kearney (197), 14. Jordan Larmour (23), 13. Garry Ringrose (50), 12. Robbie Henshaw (25), 11. Dave Kearney (123), 10. Johnny Sexton (148) CAPTAIN, 9. Jamison Gibson-Park (53)
1. Ed Byrne (24), 2. Seán Cronin (154), 3. Andrew Porter (32), 4. Scott Fardy (23), 5. James Ryan, (15), 6. Max Deegan (23), 7. Josh van der Flier (60), 8. Jack Conan (75)

16. Bryan Byrne (27), 17. Peter Dooley (49), 18. Tadhg Furlong (85), 19. Ross Molony (65), 20. Caelan Doris (2), 21. Hugh O’Sullivan (0), 22. Noel Reid (101), 23. Joe Tomane (2)

Introducing Johnny Sexton - Leinster putting up the Big Guns for the Dragons challenge. Shocked


DRAGONS
Jordan Williams, Dafydd Howells, Adam Warren, Jack Dixon, Hallam Amos, Josh Lewis, Rhodri Williams; 
Brok Harris, Elliot Dee, Lloyd Fairbrother, Matthew Screech, Cory Hill (c), Aaron Wainwright, Nic Cudd, Ross Moriarty

Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Ryan Bevington, Leon Brown, Brandon Nansen, Ollie Griffiths, Tavis Knoyle, Arwel Robson, Jarryd Sage

Amos gets his 100th start for Dragons - can they avoid a slaughter at the RDS?



Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 4:49pm
Toyota Cheetahs 24-52 Glasgow Warriors - Sat 15 Sept, 7.30pm (UK)

CHEETAHS
15 Malcolm Jaer, 14 William Small-Smith, 13 Benhard Janse van Rensburg, 12 Nico Lee, 11 Rabz Maxwane, 10 Tian Schoeman, 9 Tian Meyer
1 Charles Marais, 2 Joseph Dweba, 3 Aranos Coetzee, 4 Walt Steenkamp, 5 JP du Preez, 6 Gerhard Olivier, 7 Junior Pokomela, 8 Aidon Davis

16 Jacques du Toit, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Gunther van Rensburg, 19 Dennis Visser, 20 Niell Jordaan, 21 Marnus van der Merwe, 22 Shaun Venter, 23 Ryno Eksteen

First home game of the season - 28 degrees C in Bloem tomorrow, dropping to 20 by kick-off.


GLASGOW
1. Oli Kebble (11), 2. Fraser Brown (77), 3. Zander Fagerson (71), 4. Scott Cummings (40), 5. Jonny Gray (88), 6. Rob Harley (186), 7. Callum Gibbins (17) CAPTAIN, 8. Adam Ashe (54)
9. Ali Price (58), 10. Adam Hastings (11), 11. DTH van der Merwe (103), 12. Pete Horne (140), 13. Alex Dunbar (113), 14. Tommy Seymour (117), 15. Ruaridh Jackson (136)

Replacements: 16. George Turner (21), 17. Alex Allan (75), 18. D’Arcy Rae (41), 19. Matt Fagerson (27), 20. Chris Fusaro (143), 21. George Horne (22), 22. Nick Frisby (1), 23. Huw Jones (7)

Hogg, Grigg & Wilson out ill/injured.



Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 4:56pm
Isuzu Southern Kings 7-28 Ulster - Sun 16 Sept, 2.15pm (1.15PM UK)

SOUTHERN KINGS
15 Michael Botha, 14 Yaw Penxe, 13 Harlon Klassen, 12 Berton Klassen, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Masixole Banda, 9 Godlen Masimla
1 Schalk Ferreira, 2 Michael Willemse (C), 3 Luvuyo Pupuma, 4 Schalk Oelofse, 5 John-Charles Astle, 6 Stephan De Wit, 7 Martinus Burger, 8 Andisa Ntsila

16 Alandre Van Rooyen, 17 Xandre Vos, 18 Justin Forwood, 19 Bobby De Wee, 20 Ruaan Lerm, 21 Rudi van Rooyen, 22 Martin Du Toit, 23 Ntabeni Dukisa


ULSTER
(15-9): W Addison; C Gilroy, D Cave, S McCloskey, H Speight; B Burns, J personey;
(1-8): A Warwick, R Herring (captain), T O’Toole, A O’Connor, K Treadwell, M Coetzee, S Reidy, N Timoney.

Replacements (16-23): A McBurney, E O’Sullivan, W Herbst, J Deysel, M Rea, D Shanahan, A Curtis, A Kernohan.



Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 5:02pm
Zebre 26-24 Cardiff Blues - Sat 15 Sept, 7.35pm

ZEBRE
15 Edoardo Padovani*, 14 Mattia Bellini, 13 Giulio Bisegni, 12 Tommaso Boni*, 11 Giovanbattista Venditti*, 10 Carlo Canna, 9 Marcello Violi*
8 Renato Giammarioli*, 7 Johan Meyer, 6 Jimmy Tuivaiti, 5 George Biagi (cap), 4 David Sisi, 3 Dario Chistolini, 2 Massimo Ceciliani*, 1 Andrea Lovotti*, 

Replacements: 16 Oliviero Fabiani, 17 Daniele Rimpelli*, 18 Giosué Zilocchi*, 19 Apisai Tauyavuca, 20 Giovanni Licata*, 21 Guglielmo Palazzani, 22 Francois Brummer, 23 Tommaso Castello


CARDIFF BLUES
Matthew Morgan; Jason Harries, Garyn Smith, Rey Lee-Lo, Owen Lane; Gareth Anscombe, Tomos Williams; 
Brad Thyer, Kristian Dacey, Dillon Lewis, George Earle, Rory Thornton, Josh Turnbull, Olly Robinson (capt), Josh Navidi

Replacements: Kirby Myhill, Rhys Carre, Dmitri Arhip, Macauley Cook, Nick Williams, Lloyd Williams, Jarrod Evans, Harri Millard.

Anscombe in at 10. Surely Cardiff can get the Italian Job done.



Posted By: John
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 8:38pm
Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

Such a shame to see the Ospreys throw in the towel, I find getting one over on the irish more satisfying than getting one over the English these days!


35-6 after 43 minutes . It's just too easy.....


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 8:40pm
Oh dear.... 42-6 after 46 inutes


Posted By: joni_bach
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 8:41pm
Ospreys might be onto a bit of a hiding in Cork.


Posted By: Winston
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 8:43pm
Well if you put out a second team.


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 8:50pm
The Munster 7 Cloete? has the body shape and size and the mannerisms of Cubby. And he is about as effective. Tadhg has been replaced after 52 minutes. 


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 14 September 2018 at 9:05pm
Humilification for the former glory boys...not only have they barely recruited enough to cover their lost players , but theyve lost their best recruit , scott w, for a few months too and they rested many other top names like north , awj, tipuric, brad davies, for this game. I see rhodri is playing, is he a loose head now?Maybe a long season at the liberty

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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 15 September 2018 at 6:12am
Not maybe, definately!


Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 15 September 2018 at 11:14am
The Ospreys scrum, surprisingly, seemed to be on top in the first half, although that was the only aspect of the game where they were anywhere near Munster.
 Chris Cloete the S. African 7 who won the MOM was a revelation. Both quick and quick thinking- only 5ft 10 but with biceps bigger than most of the backs thighs - I'm sure we will be hearing more of him.
 Where Munster excelled was in their carrying, and the support they got when tackled- there were always 2 or 3 forwards, right behind to carry on the move or clear out at speed, and Cloete excelled at this. Their back 5 forwards were tremendous including Tadhg, but with our front row I would hope that we will be much tougher opposition than last night's shower.


Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 15 September 2018 at 12:09pm
Munster Scarlets will be a totally different game, the commentators who were biased, did say that Munster switched off with around 20/25 minutes to go.

Ospreys were bad, senior players did not step up-and they just wanted to give the ball back to Munster every 2 minutes, strange tactic.

This game only shows their 1st XV maybe a handful, but outside that there is little there (at the moment) 

I totally expect them to turn up against us and we will have to play as well as we did last week to win, which I feel will be the pattern for the season, we are one of the few teams everyone wants to beat, we are now on par with Leinster/Munster, which is an achievement from where we were. 

Interesting and enjoyable season in front.


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Be careful when you pick up the stick.........IT MAY BE THE WRONG END!!!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 16 September 2018 at 6:07am
Some name as Pivac successor,coach Bradley from Zebre. A fine rugby brain with a game play really confortable with out style...



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