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http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/scarlets-coach-wayne-pivac-reveals-latest-on-big-name-transfer-talks/story-29942937-detail/story.html
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Interesting interview with Pivac. Doesn't seem that Liam's is a done deal yet. He also commented on returning players & injuries. The facts are : Ken, Scott rested; Liam ankle injury doesn't sound long term; Bulbring shoulder may need surgery. Jake, Foxy, Samson & Cawdor all up for selection for saturday. Barclay being assessed, no mention made of DTH.
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I 100% want to see Hadleigh stay. He is a beast and so consistent.
In terms of Ken, my emotions are mixed. I've seen his performances from 2 years ago when I thought he was by far the best hooker in the UK, whereas now I don't see him stand out much, even in the regional scene. We also have two very very good hookers, one of which could be the future of welsh rugby. Could be a good decision to not re-sign him given the wages (unless NDC) and build with the other 2.
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s.pimpernel
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So in respect of Sanjay, either the media is lying or The Scarlets are lying.
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I think we know that it's respecting the confidentiality and timing of any announcement and tidying up matters bearing in mind Liam wi be here until the end of the season anyway - He isn't leaving tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=s.pimpernel]So in respect of Sanjay, either the media is lying or The Scarlets are lying.[/QUOT
Well it seems that way. Pivac is categorically stating that he believes only what Sanjay is telling him & at the moment Sanjay is not telling him that he is definitely going to sign for Saracens. I, for one, believe it is the media lying or lets say being misleading. Undoubtedly they are in for him that is clear. On another transfer point it appears that George Ford has triggered his release clause & will be leaving Bath next Summer. He has been strongly linked with Sale who have stated that they could afford his reported £600,000 P.A. wages. If that is true Sanjay at £375k is a snip!!!!
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Pivac is batting off a question which he doesn't want to answer.
When you have a situation where Sanjay is liking a tweet from another player, welcoming him to Saracens, then it is unlikely that the rumour is baseless, and naive to believe he's staying.
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Or the tweet was all banter that's been blown out of proportion!
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Is it still the case that a player can't sign for another club until he has less than 6 months left on his current deal? If so it may be that Sanjay has signed a pre-contract witj the Sarries, which Pivac is hoping he can persuade him not to honour? Genuine question, although I'm convinced he's made his mind up already.
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he can't say anything at the moment anyway. plus he's in London at the Ritz with his Girlfriend, injury can't be that bad then....
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Ken's performances and leadership over the last 2 seasons have been nothing to write home about. Both Phillips and Elias seem more than able deputies. However, if Ken were to regain his more than capable form, he'd be a massive asset to us. On the balance of it, I hope he stays.
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Where he says parkes is captain when Ken is away isn't Scott vice captain? More than happy having parkes as captain, being a Welsh speaker is no reason to have him as a captain ffs! I think keeping parkes is a must tbh, can see steff Hughes becoming a Welsh parkes.
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My initial reaction to Sanjay going was, good luck to him, etc etc. Since then I have had a re think, and believe it will not do his prospects much good at all. The way he plays means he will always be open to injuries. With this in mind, being on a NDC will offer him a certain degree of protection, due to the limits on the games played for us (around 16 I believe.?) If he goes to Sarries, they will have no issue in playing him when fit, with no obligation to rest him. That would mean 22 League, 6 European pool games as a bare minimum. Throw into the mix play off and semi finals etc, then you are going well over the 30 mark. I admit that he will be away with Wales for a certain number of those, however they will still be way over the 16 on a NDC. This will leave him open to the chance of injury, and that could potentially rule him out of Wales duty, so the kudos and financial benefits of International rugby will be lost to him. Just a thought, however I guess he will still go as the lure of silverware may be too much? Would be great though if he stayed at the place that gave him his rugby opportunities, and try and win silverware with the Scarlets !!
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the south African pundit on Saturday for wales game who plays for sarries said they were looking forward to him coming there.
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Liam deal has been done and we all know that. Pivac knows it too but it would be unprofessional of him to announce it.
I would like to see Jonny given a chance at FB once DTH is back on the wing, rumour had it that's where Pivac sees him as a straight replacement for Sanjay. I just hope we don't go through the whole North saga at the end of the season where he just couldn't be bothered, I highly doubt it as Its impossible for Liam to give less than 100%! As for Parkes, I hope he stays because he is vital to our back line even more so when the internationals are away. And with Ken then i think Worcester would be a move in the wrong direction for him!! |
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Not necessarily. I have absolutely no idea if Sanjay has signed anything - however, this is a possible scenario: Sanjay's agent wants to get him the best possible deal for the next 2-3 seasons. He agrees a deal with Saracens, but nothing is signed (or, maybe, a non-binding pre-contract). Agent leaks the amount to be paid to the press, in an attempt to drive up any counter-offer from the Scarlets (with or without a NDC)... with nothing definite as yet. In this scenario, the agent is doing his job (if a bit sneakily), the press are reporting what they've been told (honestly, if inaccurately), and the Scarlets are simply stating a fact - that they haven't been told anything definite. Life often comes in shades of grey (if not 50). I suspect he'll go, but players have back-tracked on supposed deals in the past. We'll see. |
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