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    Posted: 14 October 2018 at 11:43am
  This guy as been the man in the middle twice at the Parc in recent seasons and on both occasions as put in  performances nowhere near the standard for big European games, against Toulon and last night.

   Totally out of his depth a real shame Luke Pearce was running the line and Carley was man  in the middle .
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Based on the way he was looking over at the sideline, it seems the big calls the officials got wrong came from the bald touch judge. He was useless all game. If you're not going to call obvious offsides, knock-ons or forward passes, but you are going to call phantom forward passes and maul collapses, what really is the point of him being there? A trained monkey can put his flag up when the ball leaves the pitch. Officials are paid for the technical stuff and he seemed to be wrong at every opportunity.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2018 at 4:14pm
mark ,the ref had nothing to do with our loss it was our own fault,poor selection and dreadful tactics cawdor can't kick well in the doldrums leave alone a hoolie.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote saundersfootscarlets Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2018 at 4:22pm
I still feel that his poor decisions over the last 10 minutes allowed Racing to stay in the game and ultimately get the penalty try and then the win that I didn't think they deserved , not saying we didn't make mistakes but still felt we were the better team overall.
Still we have come a long way in the way we outplayed Racing second half and should have won the game for whatever reason you like.We can still go on and do well in this competition again.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speedy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2018 at 4:56pm
The officiating across the whole of round 1 was atrocious. A side who didbnt want to scrummage properly all game were encouraged to do so. Offside all game not even warned, some of it was the worst ive seen in years.

Yes we were terrible, but as was the case against the O`s bad officiating gets called win or lose. Watch the Bath Toulon game, and Exeter Munster. Terrible terrible match changing calls. 

Its driving me away from the game.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KID A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2018 at 4:58pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

The officiating across the whole of round 1 was atrocious. A side who didbnt want to scrummage properly all game were encouraged to do so. Offside all game not even warned, some of it was the worst ive seen in years.

Yes we were terrible, but as was the case against the O`s bad officiating gets called win or lose. Watch the Bath Toulon game, and Exeter Munster. Terrible terrible match changing calls. 

Its driving me away from the game.


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Year on year it is getting worse. And we're talking about calls that can be reviewed by technology. The speed of the game isn't always the issue.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sosban89 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2018 at 7:11pm
What about offside being officiated by a Hawkeye like system? Might get a lot of offside calls in the first season or so, but in time it'd get stamped into players minds and give refs one less thing to look at. 
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Didn’t see a game this weekend that didn’t have me shaking my head at the officiating, much of it significantly influential on the result.
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So do the refs need more help? They already have 2 assistants and a TMO. That said the referee makes it known what he thinks and the others just go along with it.
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Tmo needs more decision mak8ng powers. A quick word on his mic and the ref can call it on the pitch.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Winston Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2018 at 7:39pm
That said. If the ref gets all the angles on the big screen it’s he that should make the decision. After all he’s on the field because he’s the best!   And he is part of the atmosphere. A bit unlucky today that the Italian ref was clueless and thought that clearing out was obstruction
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Consistency, consistency - that's all anyone requires...  he should  ref the last ten minutes as he did the first ten. Unfortunately last night this chap didn't.
Reminded of the great  Clough quote  'You know the rules at Nottm Forest, we don't criticise referees and I'm not about to change that for this clown.'
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Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Didn’t see a game this weekend that didn’t have me shaking my head at the officiating, much of it significantly influential on the result.

Completely agree. Watched almost every game this weekend and there were bizarre calls in each one. Officials simply weren't up to the task this weekend. 

When it comes to Carley there are mixed views on whether it was still a maul or not but the decisions that led to that point were just simply wrong and meant we were under a lot of pressure we shouldn't have been under. 

Our ability to finish the game off and take the ref out of the equation was lacking though. We should have been 10-12 points clear with 5 mins to go and if we want to go deep in europe this season you have to be as clinical as Leinster, which we still aren't.
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Anyone seen the replay of when Angus goes down clearly injured, Both sets of arriving players immediatly stop, Racing making a "time out" getrure to the ref, Cawdor holding his arms up to make the ref aware there is a serious injured player at the base of the ruck, not even the racing forwards go in to contest because they can see Angus is hurt. He fell before contact. 

Ref just says play on.

Awful, simply Awful. One of his main responsibilities is player welfare.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aber-fan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 October 2018 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by Speedy Speedy wrote:

Anyone seen the replay of when Angus goes down clearly injured, Both sets of arriving players immediatly stop, Racing making a "time out" getrure to the ref, Cawdor holding his arms up to make the ref aware there is a serious injured player at the base of the ruck, not even the racing forwards go in to contest because they can see Angus is hurt. He fell before contact. 

Ref just says play on.

Awful, simply Awful. One of his main responsibilities is player welfare.

I didn't see it, but it was clear O'Brien was hurt, and the turnover which happened because of that led directly to their first try. I don't know under what circumstances refs can call a halt to the game, though. It wasn't a head injury, as far as I know.
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