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ap sior
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https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nj-rep-sherrill-lawmakers-held-reconnaissance-tours-day-before-pro-trump-rioters-attacked/2828098/
How worrying is this, if true ?????
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ap sior
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And if true, it may explain why the police did not put up much resistance, after all they'd seen some of them the day before and their behaviour was impeccable !
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ladram
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When you see how heavily armed and pumped up some of the rioters were it's a miracle only 5 died.
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Dai Guevara
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It's looking more and more as if the powers that be were happy to allow the invasion of the Capitol building to happen so that they could discredit and silence Trump on the web. After all they had no trouble clearing out the protesters and normal services were resumed in a few hours. If they were hoping that this would discredit Trump so much that he would lose the support of his fanatical followers they may need to think again as one new poll seems to have shown his support rising from 47% to 49%
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Eastern outpost
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Saw the programme and noted the selective and different application of crowd control methods.
Implication is they were encouraged by the absence of enough law and order folk.
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roy munster
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Imo CNN have incited a violence themselves.. Trump is a megalomianiac but its his anti globalist agenda thats made him billionaire enemies , many of whom influence or even own the news.
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GPR - Rochester
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Roy I have always found far more to agree with in your posts than disagree but this continuing love fest with Trump needs to stop. The man is a narcassistic megolamaniac & needs to disappear to his luxury Mar a Lago pad sharpish.
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aber-fan
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On Trump, you and I are on exactly the same page... indeed as he is someone who fomented an insurrection against his own country's government, I do wonder what the Americans think lampposts are really for?
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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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roy munster
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Lol I assure you theres no love for trump here I agree hes a narcisstic loon that will be gone in a week, his handling of covid has been a disgrace and many of his radical fans are deranged dangerous loons too... But even saying all that it doesnt mean hes wrong about everything and is also doesnt mean his opponents are necessarily any better. The bias in the media has been astounding. as for impeachment funny how pelosi didnt bother voting for the bush impeachment for the iraq war and his other disastrous foreign policies? Edited by roy munster - 14 January 2021 at 8:06pm |
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Dai Guevara
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For those suffering badly from the BBC's vomit inducing coverage of the Biden inauguration, fear not, there are already some antibody producing vaccines on the way (although obviously not in the mainstream media).
Here are a couple that I've noticed - https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/01/20/your-sigh-of-relief-is-grounded-in-delusion-notes-from-the-edge-of-the-narrative-matrix/ https://www.medialens.org/2021/a-ghastly-future-israeli-apartheid-biden-starmer-assange-and-mass-extinction/[URL= ][/URL] |
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ladram
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if it induced you to vomit why did you watch it,dog poo makes me vomit so i try to avoid it.
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Dai Guevara
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Sorry to learn about your traumatic experiences with dog-poo, but understanding how it's produced and where you are likely to find it could possibly help you and those you care for to avoid such experiences in future. Keep safe and watch your step!! |
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dr_martinov
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You also realise that vaccines usually resemble the aggravating disease?
I notice one of your blog links has "ghastly future israeli aparteid biden starmer assange mass extinction" in its title and the other is telling me my sigh of relief is delusional, in the now familiar condescending language of the far left. I think I'll pass, thanks. And I agree that the coverage of Biden's inauguration by the BBC and Guardian was completely over the top. I seriously wonder why we have so many stories on the US. Possibly they attempted to create a good news story to hide what was our worst coronavirus deaths day.
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ladram
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thanks,i see what you done there .
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Dai Guevara
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I'll defend the vast majority of the ideas in those links that you want to debate - individual points, if the lot is too wide a scope, but to dismiss the entirety as the "familiar condescending language of the far left" is in itself the sort of condescending language used by the mainstream media to dismiss, without argument, ideas, that their journalists think would upset their bosses. |
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dr_martinov
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It's generalising not condescending but point taken. A previous poster on here named Ffidel Bennett called me brainwashed at one point for mentioning something they disagreed with, for example.
Edited by dr_martinov - 22 January 2021 at 5:56pm |
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