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    Posted: 11 October 2020 at 12:40am
Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

I believe that all cases (top level) should be decided by World Rugby. Certainly would avoid the kind of conflict of interest that occurs when an RFU panel judges the cases of an England international a couple of weeks before an England game. It would also then hopefully result in more consistency in the decisions. This Covid period has also shown that players having to fly to the hearings wouldn’t be a problem with this system as it could all be done remotely.  

I like what the NFL does for immediate decisions. They have a team of 3-4 top level TMOs/panel who sit in a central room and watch and make decisions on all major reviews. They make the calls and nobody else. We should do the same thing. When it comes to a post match review, there is no need for anyone to attend in person. All by video now. We could use the same panel.
Same thing happens in MLB and while i don't disagree with the idea, we all know where the "central room" will be week in week out...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ScarletBear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2020 at 8:18pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

I believe that all cases (top level) should be decided by World Rugby. Certainly would avoid the kind of conflict of interest that occurs when an RFU panel judges the cases of an England international a couple of weeks before an England game. It would also then hopefully result in more consistency in the decisions. This Covid period has also shown that players having to fly to the hearings wouldn’t be a problem with this system as it could all be done remotely.  

I like what the NFL does for immediate decisions. They have a team of 3-4 top level TMOs/panel who sit in a central room and watch and make decisions on all major reviews. They make the calls and nobody else. We should do the same thing. When it comes to a post match review, there is no need for anyone to attend in person. All by video now. We could use the same panel.
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[QUOTE=Tiobraid]It is clear I misinterpreted the remark made by Legend... I wholeheartedly apologize. Sorry Legend.

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Apology accepted Tiobraid, it’s always nice to see contributors from other regions and provinces posting on scarlet fever.
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Originally posted by Tiobraid Tiobraid wrote:

It is clear I misinterpreted the remark made by Legend... I wholeheartedly apologize. Sorry Legend.

Good of you to post this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ladram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 October 2020 at 6:13am
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

O’Mahony is free to play this weekend after not being banned. 
Ridiculous decision. If one of the yellow cards was for a technical offence then I’d half understand but not getting a ban for two acts of foul play is utterly disgraceful.
proof if any were needed that walesonline gets it's news from the forum your post is quoted in todays paper,yesterday in a piece on rugbys hardest men it had a picture of scott gibbs showing os du rant what's what,it was a picture of a south african winger.Shocked
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It is clear I misinterpreted the remark made by Legend... I wholeheartedly apologize. Sorry Legend.

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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Thanks for the positive feedback.Thumbs UpThumbs Up
 
 
Not me mate I think your posts are rubbish WinkWink 
 
(only joking before I get accused of racism towards bathrooms ha!)

Too late, offence takenWinkLOLWinkWink
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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

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Not me mate I think your posts are rubbish WinkWink 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jones2004 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2020 at 8:25pm
I believe that all cases (top level) should be decided by World Rugby. Certainly would avoid the kind of conflict of interest that occurs when an RFU panel judges the cases of an England international a couple of weeks before an England game. It would also then hopefully result in more consistency in the decisions. This Covid period has also shown that players having to fly to the hearings wouldn’t be a problem with this system as it could all be done remotely.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greypower1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2020 at 7:49pm
O'Mahoney case was decided by a Scottish female high court judge, I've no idea if she knows anything about rugby.
Turnbull was ruled on by an Irish Rugby official.  Very strange situation.
Decisions for both cases are on the Pro14 website.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Legendinmybathroom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 October 2020 at 7:27pm
This is exactly why a lot of people (not only on this forum) feel that this league is a joke.  I’ve mentioned on here before that there is no consistency with the punishments dished out for foul play, with certain players/regions getting lesser punishment than others.
It’s crazy that deliberate foul/dangerous play is deemed less of an offence than a mistimed or misjudged tackle, which is a very big part of rugby. 
O’mahoney has form for dropping a shoulder into prone players, just look at the pro12 final, he did it to Barclay, which was picked up by the TMO, leading to Nigel Owens reversing a penalty that had been awarded to Munster.
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Now I usually say oh here we go saying Irish bias. But has anyone seen Turnbulls ban? 3 weeks. Utterly disgraceful. 
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Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

O’Mahony is free to play this weekend after not being banned. 

Ridiculous decision. If one of the yellow cards was for a technical offence then I’d half understand but not getting a ban for two acts of foul play is utterly disgraceful.


A terrible example.The message is clearly -accidentally flatten an opposing player when both of you are going for a high ball and you're banned for a month like North, but two acts of deliberate, thuggish attempts to injure and intimidate opposing players by a so called captain/leader - no further punishment or example to others.
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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

O’Mahony is free to play this weekend after not being banned. 
It is precisely this sort of thing that brings the allegations of bias with every dubious decision that gives a free pardon, or minimal sentence for Irish players.

Contrast what POM did with Cassiem’s red, maybe in his first season, where he had 3 weeks off for absolutely nothing.

Equally, Sam Louis made far less impact for his red at Munster last year than POM did landing on Jake.

How can the contact with the head that was deliberate and with zero mitigation get off scot-free?


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Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

O’Mahony is free to play this weekend after not being banned. 
Ridiculous decision. If one of the yellow cards was for a technical offence then I’d half understand but not getting a ban for two acts of foul play is utterly disgraceful.
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O’Mahony is free to play this weekend after not being banned. 
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