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Originally posted by yedarts yedarts wrote:

Originally posted by redeyes redeyes wrote:

henson in the side, you're having a laugh!


So you're dropping him based on two missed tackles (that's 71% made, higher than Wilkinson 50%, Lewsey 20% and Gethin 67%) and the hospital pass he threw on the one occasion he got the ball?

no, i'm dropping him on the basis that he did sod all all game. he wasn't the only one though. for a player with obvious talent his workrate is nowhere near high enough at international level. look at shanklins workrate for instance, henson doesn't come close. i'm sorry but he better buck his ideas up if he wants a future at international level.

no need to worry though he could always record a few duets with charlotte!
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why cant martin get an outing he does deserve it!
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Originally posted by redeyes redeyes wrote:

no, i'm dropping him on the basis that he did sod all all game. he wasn't the only one though. for a player with obvious talent his workrate is nowhere near high enough at international level. look at shanklins workrate for instance, henson doesn't come close. i'm sorry but he better buck his ideas up if he wants a future at international level.


 I agree with you here to a certain extent. On Saturday the ball wasn't coming his way so maybe he should have gone looking for it. It's difficult to comment on as we don't know what the team orders were.

I don't think Shanklin's work rate is any higher. It certainly wasn't during the six nations though the set move where Henson went on the wide arching decoy run and Shanklin came on the short ball with Morgan on his shoulder might have given you this impression. It was used a lot (to great success :))

I don't really understand why anyone would single out Henson after Saturdays game there were numerous worse performances. Maybe you just don't like him and you were waiting for the opportunity to *** him off?




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Originally posted by yedarts yedarts wrote:

Originally posted by redeyes redeyes wrote:

no, i'm dropping him on the basis that he did sod all all game. he wasn't the only one though. for a player with obvious talent his workrate is nowhere near high enough at international level. look at shanklins workrate for instance, henson doesn't come close. i'm sorry but he better buck his ideas up if he wants a future at international level.


 I agree with you here to a certain extent. On Saturday the ball wasn't coming his way so maybe he should have gone looking for it. It's difficult to comment on as we don't know what the team orders were.

I don't think Shanklin's work rate is any higher. It certainly wasn't during the six nations though the set move where Henson went on the wide arching decoy run and Shanklin came on the short ball with Morgan on his shoulder might have given you this impression. It was used a lot (to great success :))

I don't really understand why anyone would single out Henson after Saturdays game there were numerous worse performances. Maybe you just don't like him and you were waiting for the opportunity to *** him off?


i believe henson has bags of talent but just doesn't use it which is a great shame. the guy could be world class if he puts his mind to it. i also said in my post he wasn't the only one on the field who was non existent! i'm also sticking to my view that shanklin's workrate is on a different level to hensons, especially during the six nations.
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Lewsey, Robinson, Alfie, Henson, Murphy, Jones, Peel, Jenkins, Thompson, White, O Callaghan, O Connell, Easterby, Jones, Moody.

The whole thing has been hugely depressing though.
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Henson, Wilkinson and Hodgson all out with injuries.
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Originally posted by Tell Sally Tell Sally wrote:

Henson, Wilkinson and Hodgson all out with injuries.

Charlie Hodgson, Andrew Sheridan, Ollie Smith and Ben Kay are also all out of consideration for the third Test.

Meanwhile, Gareth Thomas, Neil Back, Shane Horgan, Gethin Jenkins and Will Greenwood have a variety of ailments.

Jenkins' ankle injury makes him the most serious concern of the other five doubts, with Back (throat infection), Thomas (virus), Greenwood (shoulder) and Horgan (hamstring) all confident of recovering.

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Originally posted by wizard wizard wrote:

Originally posted by Tell Sally Tell Sally wrote:

Henson, Wilkinson and Hodgson all out with injuries.

Charlie Hodgson, Andrew Sheridan, Ollie Smith and Ben Kay are also all out of consideration for the third Test.

Meanwhile, Gareth Thomas, Neil Back, Shane Horgan, Gethin Jenkins and Will Greenwood have a variety of ailments.

Jenkins' ankle injury makes him the most serious concern of the other five doubts, with Back (throat infection), Thomas (virus), Greenwood (shoulder) and Horgan (hamstring) all confident of recovering.

I think that Greenwoods ailment is that he's RUBBISH :o)
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latest - Sir clive out with mental trauma, gareth jenkins to stand in and hammer the all blacks with one of his 'weaker' midweek sides.



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Originally posted by Mike Mike wrote:

Lewsey, Robinson, Alfie, Henson, Murphy, Jones, Peel, Jenkins, Thompson, White, O Callaghan, O Connell, Easterby, Jones, Moody.

The whole thing has been hugely depressing though.



Some of us always thought it would be depressing!

Your team looks OK, but Henson is out and Robinson is not showing anything, so what about:

Lewsey, Murphy, Alfie, D'Arcy, Cueto, Stevo, Dwayne, Jenkins (if fit), Thompson, White (only because Sheridan is injured - otherwise Jenkins moves to TH), O'Callaghan, C0ckbain, Easterby, Moody, Jones
Bench: Cusiter or Dawson, Hodgson (if fit) or O'Gara, Horgan, Shane Williams,  Martyn Williams,  Byrne, Rowntree

It is getting hard to keep track, what with the injury revolving door!
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